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no ht doesnt work like that. The game or software has to be coded to use more than 4 cores. Skyrim would just use 2 cores no ht.
It would only use two physical cores if the coding tells it which threads are being hyper threaded. And knowing how poor of a port it is, and factoring in my luck, I'll be running off of a hyper threaded core. And yes, that is how hyper threading works, The OS acknowledges that there is a single physical core, but it can run an extra logical core off of the single physical core.

On topic: Wish we had a little more info on performance/heat/overclock/energy/chipset features on the revision.
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I just don't understand why is it that intel can release basically the same exact CPU over again, only difference being something they should have gotten right from the beginning (heat spreader TIM) Not only is this such a minimal re-fresh but it requires yet another new motherboard with the exact same socket.... And people are excited about it ??? I don't have anything against intel but I gotta say this is just downright garbage.

They are improving their CPUs. When AMD is sleeping completely, Intel can do whatever they want. No one forces us to upgrade? You can blame AMD for this.

Intel CPUs are sooo much ahead of AMD, especially when it comes to performance pr. watt and this is what they are improving every time. Pretty much..

I waited for Kaveri for my HTPC build.. Then I saw the watt usage. No thanks.
Edited by Lass3 - 3/25/14 at 1:24pm
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It would only use two physical cores if the coding tells it which threads are being hyper threaded.

Even Windows XP's scheduler can tell the difference between a physical and logical core.

Most OSes have been fairly HT friendly since shortly after the Pentium IV Northwoods were released.
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Even Windows XP's scheduler can tell the difference between a physical and logical core.

Most OSes have been fairly HT friendly since shortly after the Pentium IV Northwoods were released.
So even if the game is a poor port or terribly optimized, I won't get those issues? I've been meaning to make a thread asking this, but you guys might be able to give me the answer here (although a little off topic tongue.gif )
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post #85 of 106
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They are improving their CPUs. When AMD is sleeping completely, Intel can do whatever they want. No one forces us to upgrade? You can blame AMD for this.

Intel CPUs are sooo much ahead of AMD, especially when it comes to performance pr. watt and this is what they are improving every time. Pretty much..

I waited for Kaveri for my HTPC build.. Then I saw the watt usage. No thanks.

It is kind of hard to blame a company with 1/10th of the market share, there for 1/10th of the R&D budget for not being competitive. Also keep in mind the amd chips may use more power than some would like , but to some this may not matter and their far lower price point may be compelling, at that point amd can be competitive. But it's not enough to over take intel and it probably will never be.
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If Z97 was the same exact chipset as Z87 I would feel the same way but it's not so what's the big deal? Intel is innovating while Amd churns out APU's that no one cares about

Are we seriously refering to refreshes as innovation now??? Come on. I prefer intel as much as the next guy, but this is getting ridiculous now.

He wasn't lying when he said they're "born every minute" I tell ya.
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They are improving their CPUs. When AMD is sleeping completely, Intel can do whatever they want. No one forces us to upgrade? You can blame AMD for this.

Intel CPUs are sooo much ahead of AMD, especially when it comes to performance pr. watt and this is what they are improving every time. Pretty much..

I waited for Kaveri for my HTPC build.. Then I saw the watt usage. No thanks.

So that's a reason to reward intel with more money??? Marginal gains and more of our money.

That's sooo smart!!!
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Devil's Canyon CPUs are going to be extremely interesting when they launch in June. I'm guessing only the 4790 sku will be a Devil's Canyon chip, with some specific designation.


Be awesome if Intel went with the suffix -X, so the 4790K and 4790X would both coexist the X costing $50 to $100 more depending on how highly specific they are binned.


4790X and a Maximus 7 Extreme or Formula would grant amazing overclocking capabilities.


Wonder if Intel will set the stock clock at a nice even 4.0GHz. smile.gif
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Devil's Canyon CPUs are going to be extremely interesting when they launch in June. I'm guessing only the 4970 sku will be a Devil's Canyon chip, with some specific designation.


Be awesome if Intel went with the suffix -X, so the 4970K and 4970X would both coexist the X costing $50 to $100 more depending on how highly specific they are binned.


4970X and a Maximus 7 Extreme or Formula would grant amazing overckocking capabilities.


Wonder if Intel will set the stock clock at a nice even 4.0GHz. smile.gif

It'll be 4790 though, not 4970.
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So even if the game is a poor port or terribly optimized, I won't get those issues?

It doesn't rule out such issues, but most games do not need special considerations to avoid them.
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It'll be 4790 though, not 4970.

Whooops, nomenclature fail, sorry about that Mr. Jack. smile.gif

    
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