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Long time no see forums!

Anyways, I am currently looking into replacing my current build (I still have much love for my 8120!)

My best friend and I play a lot of Feed The Beast, and with the older 1.4.7 Direwolf20 pack that wasn't an issue as much as it is now with a custom 1.6.4 FTB pack that contains many more mods. My friend owns a 8320 now, and loves every second of it. I think overall it's a very fantastic chip, and it seems to be more stable (less fluctuation of core utilization) than mine. Also, when evenly clocked, he can pull out (seemingly right out of his butt) a 50-100 FPS improvement over my chip (Depending on the situation, but in a similar Java environment with FTB) I've also noticed he seems to have smoother play, and overall it seems just more polished in other games. Which is to be of course expected, given that his is the 8320, and mine is the 8120. I just did not expect that this difference would be so obvious.


With all of the great offers now, I've been contemplating on the best course of action, taking into account the near and far future of gaming and general computing. These options are what I've been considering at the moment.


i5 4670k -- It seems like a solid performer, and at a decent price as well. Unfortunately, I lose 4 cores. Not that big of a deal, but I'm also considering the fact that games will become more multi-threaded in the long-run thanks to AMD's domination in the console market currently.

FX 8320 -- The newer version of my chip, I've heard reports that you can use this chip in my current board, but I've yet to check this information. Considering this if one of these comes at an extreme sale price. (Not my first choice; Current Motherboard is MSi 970FX-G46A)

A10-7850k -- HSA, PCI-Express 3.0 for future proofing. I lose 4 cores, but gain 8 compute cores... Which don't do much currently (Please correct me if I'm wrong) And AMD's newest core and pin design.


I am definitely *NOT* glued to these choices which is why I'm asking for more opinions on what would currently be the best upgrade for a $400 budget (Just for CPU, Mobo, RAM) I can go over this budget by a little bit, but I'm really looking for a cost effective solution that I might of missed that will easily outperform my 8120 and will be future-proofed for some years to come.

I do mainly gaming on my rig, but I do like to do some media editing/recording and I love multi-tasking. I use Unity on on and off, and I am planning to have a 2-way CrossFire/SLI setup shortly after this upgrade.

Thanks in advance.
Edited by Uziman04 - 3/23/14 at 7:15am
post #2 of 7
I would definitely stick to the i5-4670K for gaming. What good is an 8-core CPU if most games are only using less than 3 of those cores and the performance of the 8320 @ single-threaded performance is disgustingly sad (can be beat by Haswell i3's)

Are you over clocking your 8120? Should close in the gap but the 8320 is for sure better than the 8120.



I'm not aware of what RAM you currently have. ASUS Z87-A/Gigabyte Z87X-D3H + i5-4670k + 2x4GB 1600/1866Mhz RAM and you're good to go!
post #3 of 7
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Thanks for the quick reply.

As I said, I won't only be gaming. This is my main computer, and as such I use it for a variety of tasks, including 3D development, and media editing.

I no longer overclock my 8120 past 3.8Ghz, I used to have it at 4.4Ghz at 1.46v (The highest voltage that my board supports, since it's a cheaper 4+1 phase) but noticed later on that my VRM's were getting a tad too hot for my liking. And I really didn't see any really huge difference in real-world performance between 3.8Ghz and 4.4Ghz.

I know of the single-threaded performance gap between Intel's and AMD's current offerings, but I'm also considering that games will become more multi-threaded over time as well, which AMD's FX series does amazingly well. Java utilizes all 8 of my cores with my current parameters.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has made the switch from a FX 8120 to either of the previously stated to share their experience.

As for the RAM, it's 8Gb GSkill Sniper @ 1866 (8,9,8,23) timings, don't remember the voltage offhand unfortunately.
Edited by Uziman04 - 3/23/14 at 8:02am
post #4 of 7
I went from an 8120 to a 8350 and it was quite the jump, especially in low threaded games like Skyrim, etc. If you are happy about the performance your friend is getting on an 8320 it would be wise just to sell the 8120 and pick up a 8350..

This way, no reinstalling the OS, swapping motherboards, etc. 8120's usually go anywhere from $80-100 used so with the 8350 at $179.99 on amazon it's quite a cheap upgrade that is well worth it. If not, you can get a 8320 and bump it to 8350 speeds (this is pretty much a guarantee on stock volts) and still sell the 8120... upgrade would cost you what, 50 bucks?

Plus, if you a lot of encoding, etc the 8 cores definitely do help.

On the flip side, if you are getting a new motherboard, I would just go i5 4670k at that point.

Games are definitely more multithreaded now (bf3, bf4, crysis 3, and a lot of new titles based on these engines will be)
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Thanks for the info! thumb.gif

I don't really care if I have to swap out the motherboard if the performance is a substantial improvement (I want to do a full refresh eventually) It was about $60~ at that time, Since I do a lot of overclocking tests (Sorry, I'm a performance Junkie) I plan on getting a better quality motherboard for that.

If you would, how much of an improvement did you see in certain games? (Just a ballpark number)
post #6 of 7
The 4670K will still net you the biggest performance gain
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@Yukla - I understand that the 4670k will be the overall best performance gain, I was leaning toward the Intel side initially anyways, I just wanted to get some different opinions or ideas from anyone who has owned an 8120 and made the switch to see if it really made a drastic difference. I might do SoloCamo's idea for picking up the 8320 on the cheap for my current build, but I don't plan on swapping out my board or spending a great deal until I build a new platform. Thanks for the recommendation though.

After doing more research into 8120 vs 8320 benchmarks and comparing that to the 8320 vs 4670k benchmarks to get a better view of price-performance for this upgrade, I've decided to instead hold out for a few more months and instead net myself 2 videocards for the time being. I couldn't really justify spending that much for an insignificant gain (Was really on the fence about upgrading yet), where I could easily grab some better videocards to do the same, since 95% of my limitations are GPU bound, really only FTB is where I see most of my performance hits, and it's not unplayable (yet).

I'll see if I can just wait it out until Broadwell hits the scene, and see how much of an improvement it holds over its Haswell predecessor, plus by then I should be able to maybe find a 4670k on sale at that point in time if they've gone down in price any. But I've decided to go the Intel route, unless AMD somehow changes my mind with a significant price drop, or with an 8 core steamroller design on the cheap. (Unlikely as it is)

Thanks for the information. thumb.gif
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