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I have a corsair 350D case and want to water cool the cpu (i5 4670K) with a custom loop. I'm looking for something that is quiet (especially the pump and fans since my goal is to also have a quiet system) and upgradable for later on, such as a gpu loop for a GTX 780 or maybe if the new maxwell cards...eventually. Is this a good config for a 1st timer? Any improvements? Oversights? I'd rather not use a bay res since that ruins the look of the case.

I'm also very interested in this EK kit kit and this XSPC kit Since it looks very upgradable in the future, but not sure if the small pump and res will fit comfortably in the 350D case, the included rad is really thick so I'm gonna put it in front of the mobo instead of the topm maybe these fans are good enough to not run that loud since the rad is so thick? As for the rads, I was looking at running just 1 for now, maybe even a slim version 240 mm...not sure.


Edited by calaero - 3/23/14 at 1:35pm
post #2 of 4
I think the D5 pump will be quieter, everything else looks OK.
if I was you, I'd personally get a thicker Rad with some Noctua's in push pull with a fan controller to make the system quiet. thumb.gif
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You will find that thickness has very little effect on cooling, tho the faster the fans are, the more of an effect it has. For "quiet", you prolly wanna stay with 1200 rpm fans and run them no faster than 850 rpm under normal usage. You can find all the original tests data over oin martinsliquidlab.com

Took that data and summarized it for perusal On a single sheet for each brand here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator
sampler components ....

4670k CPU = 135 watts at 4.6GHs
GTX 780 GPU = 290 watts @ 25% OC
MoBo = 20 - 40 watts
RAM = 10-20 watts
Pump = 20-45 watts'

With the CPU and Pump, ya looking at say 155 watts theoretical load ..... with 60% of that "theoretical" load handled by the rad, ya need 93 watts of cooling....An XT45-140 will do 66 watts, 122 w/ XT45-280 .... so ya right in the middle.

With the CPU, GPU and Pump, ya looking at 445 watts .... or 257 watts of rad load .... an XT45-420 will do 250 watts in push or pull (302 in P/P)
With the CPU, 2 GPUs and Pump, ya looking at 735 watts .... or 441 watts of rad load .... an XT45-420 and UT60-280 will do 420 in push or pull (508 in P/P)

Here's how thickness changes things for a 140m rad w/ 1250 rpm fans

30mm - 82 watts
45mm - 83
60mm - 85
86mm - 89

While kits provide costs savings and convenience, each manufacturer excels in different areas..... so it may be worth considering looking at individual selections ....

-Alphacool took top honors in martins tests pretty much across the board
-EK takes the prize on Haswell mounts w\ the Supremacy in xtremesystems CPU WB roundup
-EK also takes the GPU race on extremerigs roundup
-For pumps, a D5 is pretty much a D5. The 35X you selected ia high performance pump but ya do give up a lil bit of noise for that performance.... alternative us to run 2 at half speed.
-And yes, I'd suggest a cylindrical res..... XSPC and Aqualis both have superior materials but their large diameter puts them outta many builds
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/23/14 at 2:39pm
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Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. As for pump/res combo I decided to go with a D5 since lots of members mention it is quieter than most. Honestly I don't need a crazy high performance pump, just a small quiet one. With that said, I picked the EX D5 X-Top pump top with the included D5 vario pump with an Alphacool cape corp coolplex pro 10 LT res. I'll make sure to have the res slightly above the inlet of the pump too. I'm pretty sure it will fit in the case. As for rads, I'll keep looking through that data and update you guys soon.

EDIT: Have decided to go with the Alphacool ST 30 slim profile 240 mm. I think it should suit me fine for just a CPU loop.
EDIT 2: Updated more parts and updated my cart. Good to go right?


Edited by calaero - 3/23/14 at 7:00pm
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