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Thaml you for your informative post mdocod! So I started on changing the volt configs on the cpu to 1.1 yesterday and well after restarting the mobo didn't detect my harddrive (the setting was on AHCI). So I set the configs back to default ( which changed the settings back to IDE) and it still didn't detect the harddrive..after several attemps it finally detected my harddrive, but it showed a bluescreen with the 0x0000007b message. I had this a month back so I knew I had to change it back to AHCI and it worked again including the volt changes. However this is only started to being an issue since my last BIOS update ( which was done AFTER the problems with LoL) so thats kinda interesting. SO know a few questions: I've more volt configs in the AI Tweaker tab from my BIOS which are: CPU/NB Voltage, NB Voltage, HT Voltage and obviously the CPU Voltage configs which I changed to 1.125 now. However I left the other voltage configs untouched on auto should I change these too?
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Hey spartan I replaced my old thermalpaste on both the cpu and gpu with a good new one a week ago.
Edited by ImmortalTechniq - 3/25/14 at 3:32am
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Hey spartan I replaced my old thermalpaste with a good new one a week ago.

Just saw the CPU cooler you're running on the first page. I'll be blunt......... buy a better one. Or get AC. Or use a leafblower. Something

Essentially you are hitting the AMD thermal cap when you play League and doing your thing with streaming. It's too hot so your CPU is downclocking itself. You can try lower your voltage to 1.1-1.2v (risking instability) or keep at 1.25-1.3 and just get a better CPU cooler.

The gist of it is you are hitting 65-68 Degrees Celsius. You want to be sitting at max 55C so you don't get anywhere near the throttle mark.
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Hey should I get the Scythe Mugen 4, which PontiacGTX recommended me on page 5 I think?
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Almost any decent heatpipe tower should do. Either the Mugen or one of the Hyper 212 series (evo, + etc.).
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....SO know a few questions: I've more volt configs in the AI Tweaker tab from my BIOS which are: CPU/NB Voltage, NB Voltage, HT Voltage and obviously the CPU Voltage configs which I changed to 1.125 now. However I left the other voltage configs untouched on auto should I change these too?

CPU/NB Voltage:
The FX-8320 has a built in NorthBridge (which consists of the integrated DRAM memory controller, L3 cache controllers, HT link controllers, SQL/APIC, and a multi-port crossbar that links all of these to each-other and the CPU)
The CPU-NB and CPU, even though located on the same silicon, are fed different voltages for the sake of reducing unnecessary thermal dissipation. This is a split-plane design. The CPU-NB is usually set to ~1.15-1.25V by default depending on the chip. You may be able to reduce this *some* but the margins here are generally slimmer than that which is thrown at the CPU and there may not be much to gain in terms of reduced thermal dissipation in this department, but you can try.

NB Voltage:
This is your chip-set northbridge. This is the "next" closest IC of significance on your motherboard, relative the CPU. (the 870 chipset in your case, the one with the tall multi-fin blue "V" shaped heatsink on it next to the CPU socket). Adjusting this will not effect your CPU thermals, or CPU VRM thermals. Leave it alone.

HT Voltage:
The voltage used on the bus between the HT link controllers on your CPU-NB and chipset-NB. Leave this alone.
     
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Almost any decent heatpipe tower should do. Either the Mugen or one of the Hyper 212 series (evo, + etc.).
Is there a reason for the Scythe Mugen 4 being almost 2x as expensive? Does it perform better?
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CPU/NB Voltage:
The FX-8320 has a built in NorthBridge (which consists of the integrated DRAM memory controller, L3 cache controllers, HT link controllers, SQL/APIC, and a multi-port crossbar that links all of these to each-other and the CPU)
The CPU-NB and CPU, even though located on the same silicon, are fed different voltages for the sake of reducing unnecessary thermal dissipation. This is a split-plane design. The CPU-NB is usually set to ~1.15-1.25V by default depending on the chip. You may be able to reduce this *some* but the margins here are generally slimmer than that which is thrown at the CPU and there may not be much to gain in terms of reduced thermal dissipation in this department, but you can try.

NB Voltage:
This is your chip-set northbridge. This is the "next" closest IC of significance on your motherboard, relative the CPU. (the 870 chipset in your case, the one with the tall multi-fin blue "V" shaped heatsink on it next to the CPU socket). Adjusting this will not effect your CPU thermals, or CPU VRM thermals. Leave it alone.

HT Voltage:
The voltage used on the bus between the HT link controllers on your CPU-NB and chipset-NB. Leave this alone.
Thanks! I've the FX-8120 though, does that change anything?
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As mdocod said, you'll need to turn down the voltages a lot to see a significant change in power consumption. But once you push them down enough the differences will be pretty big as the power output goes by voltage squared.

Try adding some form of cooling to your VRMs, You can buy small heatsinks and maybe a fan to blow air over them. Adding another fan to the case might also help.

If the problem persists, you could consider getting a new motherboard.
What is vrm?
Edited by ImmortalTechniq - 3/25/14 at 5:20am
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Just saw the CPU cooler you're running on the first page. I'll be blunt......... buy a better one. Or get AC. Or use a leafblower. Something

Essentially you are hitting the AMD thermal cap when you play League and doing your thing with streaming. It's too hot so your CPU is downclocking itself. You can try lower your voltage to 1.1-1.2v (risking instability) or keep at 1.25-1.3 and just get a better CPU cooler.

The gist of it is you are hitting 65-68 Degrees Celsius. You want to be sitting at max 55C so you don't get anywhere near the throttle mark.

Yea, OP should really get a better CPU cooler for a start, the Hyper Evo is a great choice and very cheap. Just get it and if you still have problems after that then we can further look at how to solve the problem.
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What is vrm?

Sorry I cant answer the rest...

VRM is short for Voltage Regulation Module (or something else along those lines.) These are the circuits that control the voltage to the CPU and serve as the main way for the power to be delivered.

On the board these are the 1R2 marked capacitors and the switches/transistors between the caps and the IO connectors. The transistors are the main thermal dissipators here, if these get too hot they will stop working (similarly to those in the CPU itself), since the VRM doesn't have a heatsink on your MB, you will run into heat problems on these quicker. You can buy small heatsinks that you can attach to the transistors, this should (at least partially) alleviate the problem. Adding a small fan on top of those heatsinks will help too.
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As mdocod said, you'll need to turn down the voltages a lot to see a significant change in power consumption. But once you push them down enough the differences will be pretty big as the power output goes by voltage squared.

Try adding some form of cooling to your VRMs, You can buy small heatsinks and maybe a fan to blow air over them. Adding another fan to the case might also help.

If the problem persists, you could consider getting a new motherboard.
Thank you for your comment! Welp sorry for me being dumb, but I can't seem to find any vrm cooler on amazon/ebay (im in germany so no newegg).
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Yea, OP should really get a better CPU cooler for a start, the Hyper Evo is a great choice and very cheap. Just get it and if you still have problems after that then we can further look at how to solve the problem.
Hey thanks for your comment! Is the Hyper Evo a better choice comared to the Scythe Mugen 4? Because I don't mind paying a little more if it performs noticeable better.
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