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A friend of mine is in desperate need of a new computer but really doesn't have the money to spare on a proper upgrade. It doesn't need to be top of the line, but they would like to play games like Skyrim at max(near max) settings. It doesn't need to be future proof, future games can deal with being played at normal settings. Any ideas?

I found this one so far (assuming they restock it) but I'm not sure if it's possible to find something equal/better for the same/lower price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285
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This is a pretty good build. It can run most games at High-Max settings. You could probably get a cheaper case also. (Keep in mind, No OS or Optical Drive)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fhPR
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This is a pretty good build. It can run most games at High-Max settings. You could probably get a cheaper case also. (Keep in mind, No OS or Optical Drive)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fhPR

Thanks for the reply, I suppose I should have specified, needs to be under $600 (preferably $500) including the OS, so far the one I linked is the best one if that price margin without dropping to 1GB cards, but I have a feeling it won't be re-stocked.
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i7-2630QM Mobile Processor @ 2.9GHz Intel HM65 Chipset Mainboard GeForce GT 540M 2GB PCIe 8GB DDR3 Corsair 
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320GB 7200RPM 8X DVD+/-R/RW/4X +DL Windows 7 64bit 15.6" 
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i7-2630QM Mobile Processor @ 2.9GHz Intel HM65 Chipset Mainboard GeForce GT 540M 2GB PCIe 8GB DDR3 Corsair 
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320GB 7200RPM 8X DVD+/-R/RW/4X +DL Windows 7 64bit 15.6" 
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Thanks for the reply, I suppose I should have specified, needs to be under $600 (preferably $500) including the OS, so far the one I linked is the best one if that price margin without dropping to 1GB cards, but I have a feeling it won't be re-stocked.

The Graphics Card included in that build you linked is god awful.

How's this? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fjYY
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fvDB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fvDB/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fvDB/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Antec GX500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $424.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-24 08:41 EDT-0400)

Gpu
170usd AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131563

Or

170usd with a free firemv2240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131561
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lol a lot the same as Pontiacs but I promise I didn't cheat off him biggrin.gif

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fZVd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fZVd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fZVd/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.74 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T612-20PK-R1 82.9 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $579.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-25 00:42 EDT-0400)
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G,Skill TridentX OCZ Vector 150 TPC-612 Windows 10 
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G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
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Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
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G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
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Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
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Originally Posted by End3R View Post

Thanks for the reply, I suppose I should have specified, needs to be under $600 (preferably $500) including the OS, so far the one I linked is the best one if that price margin without dropping to 1GB cards, but I have a feeling it won't be re-stocked.

Common misconception is that more GB of VRAM on the GPU automatically means more performance.

In the same way that adding more system memory can only improve performance if the workload can actually leverage more system memory, GPU performance runs into a similar problem. Unless we have textures and resolutions large enough to NEED the extra VRAM, then it goes unused and has no impact on performance. To make matters WORSE, the only way to actually benefit from more MORE VRAM on a GPU, is if the VRAM is FASTER, and. In fact, the more VRAM there is on a GPU, the faster the entire GPU has to be in order to benefit from having more VRAM in the first place.

Here's the catch: The 2GB models of the R7 240, come with DDR3 for VRAM, while the 1GB models come with GDDR5. The 1GB models have more than TWICE the memory bandwidth. Even with double the bandwidth, the R7-240 still isn't a powerful enough GPU to really make use of a full 1GB if VRAM. In fact, it isn't until about the R7 260X that the 2GB version OCCASIONALLY outperforms the 1GB version. (in that case, both are GDDR5 so the bandwidth is the same).

An R7 240 1GB performs better than an R7 240 2GB card because the 1GB model has better VRAM BANDWIDTH, which is far more important than size once the size is "large enough" to cover the workloads that fall within the capabilities of the card in the first place. An R7 260 1GB, is 3X as fast as an R7 240 2GB.


Here's something a little closer to the budget that those listed so far. (by my math both of the suggestions above are over $700 once you fill in the blanks and account for shipping from the selected retailers, etc)

CPU + Motherboard combo: Intel Core i3-4130 + Gigabyte GA-H81.Amp-UP ($196 @ Newegg)
The i3-4130 is a better gaming CPU than the 760K@factory clocks. Unless your friend is the performance tuning type who likes to tinker, the i3 is the better choice. The amp-up motherboard has some nice features for an entry class motherboard, including heat-sunk VRMs and one of the finest on-board sound cards you can get.

Memory + PSU combo: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 + SeaSonic S12II 380W 80+ Bronze ($119 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card + Case combo: MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB + Rosewill Line Glow ATX ($171 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
If you can salvage this from another machine you can remove this from the build.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($~90 @ NCIX/wherever has it cheapest at the time)
This comes on an optical disk, which will require an optical drive to install.

Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($~20 @ Amazon/newegg etc)
Alternative is to salvage this or buy them at a thrift store for a few dollars each.

Total: ~$655 SHIPPED $615 after MIRs.
Edited by mdocod - 3/26/14 at 7:48am
     
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
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FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
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A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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