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Thank you Astralite. People constantly ask me about Logitech speakers such as these without ever using their eyes along with their ears. biggrin.gif Tweeters are not hard to spot......... And, no I am not picking on the OP of the thread.

How can people possibly miss the tweeters? That is all I ever hear on logitech speakers. Angry tweeters.
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How can people possibly miss the tweeters? That is all I ever hear on logitech speakers. Angry tweeters.

Maybe they were too concentrated on the 8 inch mud box
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Maybe they were too concentrated on the 8 inch mud box

Mud box? You mean that it wasn't a foot massager? I thought logitech put that there to relax you while you were being brutally attacked by treble. Gosh, and all this time I thought logitech were being nice to me. tongue.gif
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How can people possibly miss the tweeters? That is all I ever hear on logitech speakers. Angry tweeters.

For the most part they're pretty decent with little to no distortion at max volume, even with its 200 Wats RMS power, also despite being analog speakers there is no Buzzing at all, neither distortion, maybe I can thank my motherboard for that (990FXA-Sabertooth 2.0)

And for the price (150$) I believe there is no other THX 2.1 System that can beat these ones, on amazon for example, the reviews are near perfect, 4.7 Stars from thousands of reviews.

But getting back to the topic, I'm getting 24/96 since upsampling songs from 16/44 wouldn't make a negative difference in quality as 24/192 do, not a noticeable one, so I heard, weird thing is that when I set 24/96 I get audio stuttering from Prototype, but only that game, all others works fine.
Edited by Dargonplay - 3/24/14 at 10:27am
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Thanks, it clear most of the doubts, I'll be seething 24/96KHz, but... The guys above said my logitech Z623 aren't able to play over 35KHz frequency due to its analog nature, which somehow is limiting it to only 35KHz, so beyond 24/35KHz it wouldn't make any difference, or I am not understanding it right?

You are not understanding it right. Sampling rate is about the bandwidth of frequencies a signal contains on the digital domain. A digital signal will carry frequencies up to half the sampling rate of the nyquist frequency, so a 96KHz sampling rate will carry frequencies up to 48 KHz. However a tweeterless design like your Z623s is only linear upto around 14-16KHz. A standard 44.1KHz sampling rate will carry frequencies up to 22.05KHz, which is already above the bandwidth of your speakers so further up-sampling is pointless. Now if the original sampling rate of some of your audio files are nonstandard 44.1 (like 96KHz) in theory its better to play it back at that sampling rate for the full effect however your speakers likely cant reproduce those higher frequencies anyway; in addition human hearing is almost nonexistent above 23KHz beyond a few select individuals.

Also the original intent of upsampling/supersampling was to remove brickwall filter noise/ringing at 22.05KHz, a frequency that some high end speakers can reproduce reliably, not to magically increase quality or whatever you were imagining. Its neither an issue with your speakers, nor is it going to add anything positive to the sound, in fact upsampling can cause rounding errors when its not a increase by a divisible multiple of the original sampling rate.
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You are not understanding it right. Sampling rate is about the bandwidth of frequencies a signal contains on the digital domain. A digital signal will carry frequencies up to half the sampling rate of the nyquist frequency, so a 96KHz sampling rate will carry frequencies up to 48 KHz. However a tweeterless design like your Z623s is only linear upto around 14-16KHz. A standard 44.1KHz sampling rate will carry frequencies up to 22.05KHz, which is already above the bandwidth of your speakers so further up-sampling is pointless. Now if the original sampling rate of some of your audio files are nonstandard 44.1 (like 96KHz) in theory its better to play it back at that sampling rate for the full effect however your speakers likely cant reproduce those higher frequencies anyway; in addition human hearing is almost nonexistent above 23KHz beyond a few select individuals.

Also the original intent of upsampling/supersampling was to remove brickwall filter noise/ringing at 22.05KHz, a frequency that some high end speakers can reproduce reliably, not to magically increase quality or whatever you were imagining. Its neither an issue with your speakers, nor is it going to add anything positive to the sound, in fact upsampling can cause rounding errors when its not a increase by a divisible multiple of the original sampling rate.

So, 24/41KHz for these speakers then, thanks, I'm a total ignorant regarding sound, so I though these were like the best consumer 2.1 THX out there, guess I should had made a better research.
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For the most part they're pretty decent with little to no distortion at max volume, even with its 200 Wats RMS power, also despite being analog speakers there is no Buzzing at all, neither distortion, maybe I can thank my motherboard for that (990FXA-Sabertooth 2.0)

And for the price (150$) I believe there is no other THX 2.1 System that can beat these ones, on amazon for example, the reviews are near perfect, 4.7 Stars from thousands of reviews.

But getting back to the topic, I'm getting 24/96 since upsampling songs from 16/44 wouldn't make a negative difference in quality as 24/192 do, not a noticeable one, so I heard, weird thing is that when I set 24/96 I get audio stuttering from Prototype, but only that game, all others works fine.

There are. The klipisch pro media 2.1 is sometimes cheaper and is more respectable.

There are also plenty of awesome deals you can find at thrift stores for true blue vintage audio. I picked up a harman kardon receiver and a set of warfdale speakers for 70 bucks.

Dayton audio also makes a few options.

The hate for logitech comes from the fact that they are kind of like beats audio for PC speakers. They are horribly over priced for what they are. If you take a little bit of time to actually go buy passive speakers and an amp, chances are that you will have a far better sounding system.

Check out some of totally dubbed's videos on the celestion 3s vs the logitech speakers.
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