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I'm not sure if this is the right place for this but I'm at wits end and really need some help.

Okay so this is going to be a long story, I'll have a TL;DR at the end.

So I had an ATX setup going perfectly fine:
i5 3570k
850W XFX PSU
AsrockZ77 Extreme4 Mobo
Corsair Vengeance 8GB RAM
1TB WD HDD
128GB Samsung SSD
Asus DC2OC R9 290

Then I saw the RVZ01 ITX case coming out so I decided I'd like to do an ITX build. So I post my motherboard, power supply, case, and cpu cooler on craigslist in preparation for my new build and went ahead and ordered a Silverstone 450W SFX PSU and an Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Motherboard.

So my PSU arrived first, and it was right when someone wanted to buy my old PSU. So I go ahead and hook it up to my ATX system and sell my PSU. The PSU powers my system for a few days before my motherboard and case arrive. So a few days later the case and mobo arrive and I assemble my steam box. Boot it up, everything is going good.

Then one night gaming in the living room on my new steam box, my roommate bumped my pc and knocked it off the 2 foot high coffee table. I quickly unplugged it and checked the internals. Everything looked good, I booted it up and it seemed to be running fine. The next day, my system started acting up. I would randomly black screen with my GPU fans spinning way up to what I assume was 100% speed.

Now running the ITX build I don't remember having crashing issues before my roommate knocked my PC off the coffee table, but it was definitely happening afterwards.

So I decided to put my GPU, CPU, RAM, and PSU back into my ATX system and see if the same crashes would happen, and they did. So I figured it wasn't my motherboard and went ahead and ordered a replacement power supply to check if that was the problem, and just left my stuff in the ATX build in the meantime running off of integrated graphics.

The next day, someone came to buy my motherboard so I put all my stuff back into the ITX case, then waited for my new power supply.

New power supply showed up and I went ahead and reinstalled windows and drivers on the ITX motherboard and started having different issues (on both power supplies) my display driver started crashing completely randomly, over and over again even while just browsing. When the crashes would happen, MSI Afterburner showed huge spikes in GPU usage. I'd try to start a game after the crash and wouldn't get any further crashes but GPU Memory usage would be stuck at 0%. So I tried different drivers and none of them worked.

And on top of that I was having this weird boot up issue where I would have to turn my computer on and off about 3 times before getting a successful boot. So I thought this had something to do with the auto overclocking. So I went into BIOS and changed everything to manual (1.2v @ 4.2 on my CPU, 1.5v @ 1600 on my RAM) and flipped the TPU switch off. Now I can't get a successful boot whatsoever. I push the power button, the system automatically powers on and off a few times by itself before staying on completely and not actually booting up.

I tried running one stick of RAM at a time, unplugged all other cables and everything unnecessary but I just can't get the thing to boot while plugged into the motherboard.

*** is going on?

TL;DR:
Issue 1: Roommate knocked PC off coffee table, system black screen with GPU fans speeding up
Issue 2: Display Drivers constantly crashing on new power supply, 0% VRAM usage in game after driver crash
Issue 3: Can't get system to post after turning off auto tuning, through motherboard or GPU DVI port.


Even with the TL;DR I think it's helpful to get the whole story if you have the time.

SOMEONE HELP ME!!
post #2 of 17
It definitely appears as though something has sustained some physical damage. If I were in your shoes I would try to swap out each component one at a time to try and isolate the broken link(s).

What drive is your OS saved to? perhaps your mechanical HDD didn't take the impact too well.

The impact may have caused a cracked solder point somewhere on one your components, can you swap out your GPU for one that you know works? my gut tells me that your 290 has been damaged, I know those coolers are heavy and don't like to be knocked around try to isolate that first.

Let us know how you go.
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It definitely appears as though something has sustained some physical damage. If I were in your shoes I would try to swap out each component one at a time to try and isolate the broken link(s).

What drive is your OS saved to? perhaps your mechanical HDD didn't take the impact too well.

The impact may have caused a cracked solder point somewhere on one your components, can you swap out your GPU for one that you know works? my gut tells me that your 290 has been damaged, I know those coolers are heavy and don't like to be knocked around try to isolate that first.

Let us know how you go.
Windows is on my SSD, I think my gpu is messed up too but why can I not get to bios even with only ram and cpu connected? I might be able to borrow a friend's 780 but first I gotta figure out how to get the thing to actually start up.
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Can you not get into Bios when the GPU is connected? what happens when you boot up? have you tried running off the integrated graphics rather than GPU output just to get into the bios? also check the cpu heatsink fan is connected that has caused me issues in the past.
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Can you not get into Bios when the GPU is connected? what happens when you boot up? have you tried running off the integrated graphics rather than GPU output just to get into the bios? also check the cpu heatsink fan is connected that has caused me issues in the past.
Yesterday I was able to boot up just fine, except it would take two tries as in I'd hit the power button, fans turn on but no boot, so I turn it off and back on then it would work perfectly, GPU or not. To fix that issue I thought maybe turning off the "auto overclocking" would fix it so I followed the guide on here and set my stuff up manually, restarted and haven't been able to boot since (gpu or not).

Now when I press the power button, everything turns on but there's no signal to the monitor, nothing happens, no keyboard led or mouse lights or anything.

The weird thing is the issue I'm having now is different than the issue I was having directly after my computer fell off the coffee table.
Edited by Gravytrain - 3/24/14 at 1:19am
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Still having issues.
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What did you "Set up"? By disabling auto overclocking do you mean you disabled turbo mode?

Right now it sounds like you have an unstable clock setting...look up how to reset the CMOS on you motherboard...it will be a little jumper you just temporarily short out with the system powered off and unplugged.
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What did you "Set up"? By disabling auto overclocking do you mean you disabled turbo mode?

Right now it sounds like you have an unstable clock setting...look up how to reset the CMOS on you motherboard...it will be a little jumper you just temporarily short out with the system powered off and unplugged.
I just followed this overclocking guide and set my CPU to 1.2v @ 4.2GHz, there's a CMOS reset button on the back of my motherboard but pressing that does nothing for me.
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It does nothing when the system is powered down and unplugged? Press the power button too just to drain any capacitors or just wait a few seconds.

Not all CPUs and mother boards will have the same overclocking results.

You might have to pop the little battery out of the mother board for a minute to reset the CMOS if the button/jumper isn't working for you
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 3/24/14 at 11:23am
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It does nothing when the system is powered down and unplugged? Press the power button too just to drain any capacitors or just wait a few seconds.

Not all CPUs and mother boards will have the same overclocking results.

You might have to pop the little battery out of the mother board for a minute to reset the CMOS if the button/jumper isn't working for you
Yeah it does nothing while it's unplugged. I'll have to try the battery.

Edit: Wow, it looks like some juice stays in the system for a bit after unplugging it, I assume it's because there's no off switch on the PSU and there is a power cable that runs through the case to connect it.

Now it's booting up successfully and it appears that it even fixed the problem where I had to press the power button a few times to get a successful boot.

Now to figure out why my GPU is crashing.
Edited by Gravytrain - 3/24/14 at 11:36am
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