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Oh another cool observation, weather the 980ti, or the gtx 1070, I double the performance of a gtx 780. I guess cant complain moving forward.
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Thought about 980ti, they run about 350.00 used. There suppose to be good for the overclock. Buying used and building a system at the same time gets risky. If you cant test the card right away, lie awake every night until the system is done. New its like no worries. Then the GTX1070 dont have to hunt as hard picking the second one up, when money comes in, or after you find all the change in the couch. Looking in dryer too, then the washing machine.
Water they say it doesn't matter , but facts are on a engine like a motorcycle its a for sure 4 to 5000 rpm increase. dont know if maxwell is that warm where you need water for overclocking, but every card I have had even stock the noise is unbearable, even at a distance. A load held for a long time and the heat will add up and fans will scream.
The Overclocking of the 1070 I dont know 15% 20% they say 30% from the 980ti at a much lower base clock
Is the Bios changed for maxwell? I'm coming from GTX 780 sli 1440 RES Overclock on air is ok there too, but if you really crank it through bios its a game changer. The DSR monitor change no problem, even from the stand point of gtx 780's maxing 120 htz, was cool. Go to game and nvidia control panel max everything no probs

If you picked the cards up from here they would be 100% legit cards that work. That's why this site is good to buy used cards. The 980ti referance clocks are 1000mhz core, boost clock to 1075mhz core, then a max boost of around 1150-1200 mhz, but because it's referance thermal throttle hits it hard so in the end your max boost clock would be more around 1100mhz. you can overclock them to around 1250-1300 mhz but, they just get way too hot and way too loud.

On my 980ti HoF my max boost clock is 1511mhz, but i don't run it that high. I keep it at 1450mhz to keep it stable more. So that's already 450mhz above the stock clock of the reference card. in theory I get about 30%overclock in comparison to a reference card give or take.

maxwell 980ti run hotter than other cards due to the TDP and so on. My card gets to about 70-75'c but I have a custom bios so I never get any voltage drop and always have one set boost clock of 1450mhz core, and 8100mhz memory.

a single 1070 under water seems silly. you could have bought two 980ti evga sc with EK nickel backplates for $400 each on this site. might seem like a lot, but it's similar price to a 1080, but has both water blocks with it as well. and two overclocked 980ti beat one single 1080 overclocked by about 30% maybe more.
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For 1440 maybe the best solution, the 1080 ti and trying to keep from feeling like a hamster on a wheel. On what card to get, eventually just have to get one. They haven't released anything for bios tweaking, or how it sounds for 1070 1080. Dont know if they will, or even if the cards function with it, But taking a card from100% power to 125, 150% power for 980ti makes the diffrence.(1080 980 ti) The overclock is one thing but the power limit is another. 1450 with air cooling does rock, if true. the power limit 150%???????
Yea I agree 1 1070 weather air or water cooled doesn't seem worth it, need another at least two, Rumors of expanding 3 4 way sli with HB
I wont believe it until I see it
I guess put 3 cards on MOBO for 4k one for each monitor running independent no sli I havent heard if will work with HB interferace
SLI 980 ti for 3 or 4 cards is the way to go they do allow multi sli Then the sky is the limit 1440 frame rate, beyond 1080
Used Maxwell Titans wouldn't be bad either running like 600.00 and have the 12gb of memory for prerender of frames.
At the time I looked at it like either way buying a 980ti or buying a 1070 980ti more efficent but less cuda cores
They really did something to make the pascal work, like it does, have to see if they allow bios tweaks 150%
Might be able to keep up with 980ti sli
Edited by Petey - 10/6/16 at 1:11pm
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For 1440 maybe the best solution, the 1080 ti and trying to keep from feeling like a hamster on a wheel. On what card to get, eventually just have to get one. They haven't released anything for bios tweaking, or how it sounds for 1070 1080. Dont know if they will, or even if the cards function with it, But taking a card from100% power to 125, 150% power for 980ti makes the diffrence.(1080 980 ti) The overclock is one thing but the power limit is another. 1450 with air cooling does rock, if true. the power limit 150%???????
Yea I agree 1 1070 weather air or water cooled doesn't seem worth it, need another at least two, Rumors of expanding 3 4 way sli with HB
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SLI 980 ti for 3 or 4 cards is the way to go they do allow multi sli Then the sky is the limit 1440 frame rate, beyond 1080
Used Maxwell Titans wouldn't be bad either running like 600.00 and have the 12gb of memory for prerender of frames.
At the time I looked at it like either way buying a 980ti or buying a 1070 980ti more efficent but less cuda cores
They really did something to make the pascal work, like it does, have to see if they allow bios tweaks 150%
Might be able to keep up with 980ti sli

Custom bios force lock the voltage to 1.194v (for 980ti HoF that is the sweet spot) Memory 8000-8300, higher gets a bit more unstable, but will run on some games but not all. Core ranged from 1425-1550. lower clocks work better when I tax the system, higher clocks work better on stuff like battlefield 4 where it isn't too taxed which is nice. Got an i5 6600K overclocked to 4.9ghz currently, trying for that 5ghz barrier thumb.gif

Power limit I believe is set to 425w. 250w stock, so quite a lot more. but it never reads above 80% power usage so more like 340w peak.
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For 1440 maybe the best solution, the 1080 ti and trying to keep from feeling like a hamster on a wheel. On what card to get, eventually just have to get one. They haven't released anything for bios tweaking, or how it sounds for 1070 1080. Dont know if they will, or even if the cards function with it, But taking a card from100% power to 125, 150% power for 980ti makes the diffrence.(1080 980 ti) The overclock is one thing but the power limit is another. 1450 with air cooling does rock, if true. the power limit 150%???????
Yea I agree 1 1070 weather air or water cooled doesn't seem worth it, need another at least two, Rumors of expanding 3 4 way sli with HB
I wont believe it until I see it
I guess put 3 cards on MOBO for 4k one for each monitor running independent no sli I havent heard if will work with HB interferace
SLI 980 ti for 3 or 4 cards is the way to go they do allow multi sli Then the sky is the limit 1440 frame rate, beyond 1080
Used Maxwell Titans wouldn't be bad either running like 600.00 and have the 12gb of memory for prerender of frames.
At the time I looked at it like either way buying a 980ti or buying a 1070 980ti more efficent but less cuda cores
They really did something to make the pascal work, like it does, have to see if they allow bios tweaks 150%
Might be able to keep up with 980ti sli

Pascal isn't as good as what they promised and for the price it's unbelievable. I paid £529 for my 980ti HoF which is cheap brand new, and mines also a limited edition 8 pack version, and from what I know i'm the only one in this thread to have it smile.gif only difference is the '8' on the side fans. but he approved the card and so on.

Maxwell is the bees knees though, oinly reason 1070.1080 do SO well is the core clocks. that IS IT. if it had the same core clock as the same division maxwell card, maxwell would win.
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Thats what I was wondering about cores, 980 ti and 780ti sharing the same amount of cores and memory interface 384 bit. I was almost hesitant to stick with my 780's/780ti but then it showed a benchmark after benchmark. 2 gtx 780/780 ti = 1 gtx 1070 or gtx 980 ti. If it was for 2k would of stuck with the 980ti but for 4k 1070 is a better card. or as it shows in benchmarks that I saw.
After you go 4k Its hard to go back to 2k, but if 120/144 htz is your thing people like to stick it out there. The picture quality of 4k is unbelievable bui you need power behind it or thing will get laggy. For 60 htz monitor 2 1070 will have everything smashed at max. So for that I'm glad for the 1070, but with ultra wide 2k monitors where if I was starting my system over again, the price of ultra wide 2k monitor is a hard decision to make over 4k. Then get the monitor in glossy, 2 980ti or titan x and yea, oh the curved 2k ultra wide total way to go. Got into 4k after getting a 4k tv, if my the tv beats my pc monitor I will scream like a girl.

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Thats what I was wondering about cores, 980 ti and 780ti sharing the same amount of cores and memory interface 384 bit. I was almost hesitant to stick with my 780's/780ti but then it showed a benchmark after benchmark. 2 gtx 780/780 ti = 1 gtx 1070 or gtx 980 ti. If it was for 2k would of stuck with the 980ti but for 4k 1070 is a better card. or as it shows in benchmarks that I saw.
After you go 4k Its hard to go back to 2k, but if 120/144 htz is your thing people like to stick it out there. The picture quality of 4k is unbelievable bui you need power behind it or thing will get laggy. For 60 htz monitor 2 1070 will have everything smashed at max. So for that I'm glad for the 1070, but with ultra wide 2k monitors where if I was starting my system over again, the price of ultra wide 2k monitor is a hard decision to make over 4k. Then get the monitor in glossy, 2 980ti or titan x and yea, oh the curved 2k ultra wide total way to go. Got into 4k after getting a 4k tv, if my the tv beats my pc monitor I will scream like a girl.

curved monitors are kinda pathetic really.

I still play at 1080p because that's how I roll. I'm getting two 21:9 2560x1080 monitors soon. an expensive 1080 monitor beats a cheap 1440p monitor in quality most of the time. as for 4k, I have no need for it. I've played 4k and I don't see much of a difference. I know it is better, but personally I prefer 2k for games. It's less taxing, and looks the best in my opinion. 4k has a few hickups and some things can look unrealistic as it's so sharp. If I really want to tax my system to see what it can handle then I do 4x DSR. Crysis 3 runs at 35-50fps on 4k on my system. Shadow of Mordor maxed out 4K dsr runs at 45-60fps. DSR looks a tad worse of course, but it's the same performance as a true 4k reso. I can match 1080 performance on my 980ti on 4k in some games. This other person has a 1080 Gainward card and I beat her fps in all 4k games, and she even has a I7 4790k. so I have no idea how my rig beats her, but I was happy lol
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Thats what I was wondering about cores, 980 ti and 780ti sharing the same amount of cores and memory interface 384 bit. I was almost hesitant to stick with my 780's/780ti but then it showed a benchmark after benchmark. 2 gtx 780/780 ti = 1 gtx 1070 or gtx 980 ti. If it was for 2k would of stuck with the 980ti but for 4k 1070 is a better card. or as it shows in benchmarks that I saw.
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The main weakness to the 1080 is the 256bit bus. It doesn't have enough bandwidth to keep up with the 980ti in some titles. fair enough it has better memory, and 8gb over 6gb, but I don't even use 6gb memory on some 4k games. My bandwidth and cuda cored surpass a 1080 which is why I can keep up to it's performance in some games. I find my card scales better compared to 4k. I never watch youtube comparison videos anymore. some people are just bias and will say something is better when it isn't. I saw a few 1080 vs 980ti videos where the 1080 was 30% better at everything when I know for a fact it isn't. Most people use a ref 980ti vs a 3rd party 1080 and I'm just like... facepalm. my 1500 core 980ti can match a 2000 core 1080. It's all about tweaking, and finding the sweet spot.
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curved dark room immersive feeling, 2 monitors could see Pathetic, but 3 it would be like wah. Yea didn't know how much dsr plays a role, even with 1980 monitor. Have to try it more intensive, slower memory interface, every one says there not much difference, between the spec's. but it does seem to show on overclock and cores. Using 4k just running by its self, and max every thing is my goal, at least 60 fps and cool. Figure 2 1070's and set. 1080 would of been better but almost or 300.00 more / I'm dieing, out of breath, have to lay-down, and hold my wallet. Some got it like that, I guess, pascal titans dont even want to think about it. Saw 100 fps with air cooling was like cool, but no way 1500.00. Have to turn to be a bank robbing bandit for that. Maybe the lottery will come my way, that would keep me from prison. So for now content with what I got.
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curved dark room immersive feeling, 2 monitors could see Pathetic, but 3 it would be like wah. Yea didn't know how much dsr plays a role, even with 1980 monitor. Have to try it more intensive, slower memory interface, every one says there not much difference, between the spec's. but it does seem to show on overclock and cores. Using 4k just running by its self, and max every thing is my goal, at least 60 fps and cool. Figure 2 1070's and set. 1080 would of been better but almost or 300.00 more / I'm dieing, out of breath, have to lay-down, and hold my wallet. Some got it like that, I guess, pascal titans dont even want to think about it. Saw 100 fps with air cooling was like cool, but no way 1500.00. Have to turn to be a bank robbing bandit for that. Maybe the lottery will come my way, that would keep me from prison. So for now content with what I got.

Pascal is just WAY overpriced.

the 1080 is more like the 1080ti's price range. They made them ridiculously expensive because they knew it would sell. a 960 was what? £150-190. a 1060? £250-300. Fair enough it's 'better'. but it shouldn't cost more. It should cost a slight margin more say £200 to match the rx 480, that way it would completely dominate the lower market and AMD would be screwed. Probably can't do that as it probably costs a lot to make. it's just stupid that a 1080 HoF costs £799. I paid £529.99 for my 980ti and it's almost on par in some benchmarks. I'd rather have my card and the extra £300 *****.
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