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They will definitely show up on OCN, not nearly as common as the Titan though, but it will make an appearance.
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I doubt that doubt.

Haha, me too. Although, a few of the people I expected would jump for one of these so far have been not so enthused with the price-point. I still am confident we'll see some show up on here. Some people love their e-peen.
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post #273 of 280
I think I still have the left kidney and a bit of liver for my next build
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$3000? Since it's under Titan branding will you even get access to workstation drivers and support?
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Regarding the whole convention, it was mainly geared towards developers and parallel compute (Grid, Machine Learning, Cloud). Saw 3D printing live for the first time as well as experienced Oculus Rift personally for the first time, so I'm very happy with that.
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oh dude, didn't a guy from OCN go to GTC? rolleyes.gif

Why yes I did. I can't exactly complain about anything since it was all free. Got myself a free backpack and a free Shield as well. wheee.gif

After using the Shield for a few hours, it's a pretty awesome device. Granted that there is Wi-Fi, I'm able to watch streams, watch my shows/anime (microSD), play more intensive mobile games as well as use some emulators for older games. Many applications make use of the native controller, while it is also possible for one to map out buttons. I have yet to try streaming games through the PC to the Shield, but it may be impossible to do without an Nvidia GPU. I don't know if I can recommend it to others unless they are deeply involved in Android mobile gaming, but the Shield definitely gives the Nintendo 3DS a run for its money (comparing $200 Shield vs 3DS XL).

    
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How much does it cost nVidia to make Titan Z?
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How much does it cost nVidia to make Titan Z?

are you including R&D, the bad yields, manufacturing issues, etc? Or just a materials cost?
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are you including R&D, the bad yields, manufacturing issues, etc? Or just a materials cost?

Everything.
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Everything.

I don't know tongue.gif

But it's quarterly R&D budget as of Jan 31st 2014 was $336.64 Million bucks; proceeded by quarterly budgets of 340.29M, 331.74M, and 327.16M.

Assuming each budget is independent of one another, basically a billion dollars spend on R&D last year. Not too far fetched considering Intel and MS spend ~10 Billion. Now, as for how much R&D was just for the GK110...I don't have that breakdown.
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Most of what bounces the price between cards of similar VRAMs is the wafer price at TSMC.

You will hear a lot saying "oh it's cheap, they're ripping you off, here, I googled prices", but it's not that simple. TSMC has a tiny segment of its business on cutting edge shrinks (most of what they do is old technology cuts we don't care about here). They naturally charge a lot. e.g. notice how NVIDIA's best cards have a bigger chip, hence they waste more wafers to make fewer of them, and they fail more often at manufacturing when they are bigger. AMD is not stupid to make smaller chips last time, ok they failed a bit, but they did it on an obvious purpose. They have large costs on wafers and the more chips they get from them the better. If they really didn't have a problem with wafer costs they'd make humongous chips to floor the titans.

tl;dr: nobody knows, most deals are secret, but the bulk of the difference between modern cards of similar vram is the cost of wafer at tsmc.
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