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Originally Posted by Mand12 View Post

Of course it's overpriced, no matter what.

But why does that actually matter? If you think it's overpriced, then don't buy it. What good does making a stink on the internet about it do?

about as good as making up reasons for who and why this card isn't an overpriced, under performing waste of time (itx, scientists) even though with a little though it's clear it won't be practical any of those scenarios. about the same I guess, which is none at all really. products like these are never lacking in their ability to generate so much "discussion" around here so that's good. a chance for members to bond. thumb.gif
Edited by PureBlackFire - 3/27/14 at 3:09pm
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I guess that's actually what many thought after getting the Titan tongue.gif
Lets see what the future will bring us however it kinda gets more and more unpredictable.

Tons of people bought a Titan, then 780Ti is released and pissed a lot of people off. That is what is gonna happen with this card when they release a 790 version.

Heh, I can see being a little miffed if you shelled out the bones for a Titan before the 780ti came along, but no one who bought a Titan should be upset over the Titan-Z. Maybe people that have two Titans in SLI and have no limits on their budget (though they can just trash can their Titans and buy this tongue.gif), but any time you get a dual GPU card(or go SLI with the top end GPU) it is going to kick a single GPU card's butt for a while. It will take a "890" to beat it...though I can see a "790" matching it...and for a lot less cost. I wonder if Nvidia will really make one.
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post #493 of 747
Nobody is upset about the Titan Z. They don't buy it so they don't care. They make fun of it.

Most of the drama here is "omg don't say bad things about titan z". No, say it if it's right.

And another thing. Real capitalists don't like overpriced. They want competition.



The only 'upset' is from those waiting for 20nm Maxwell, unrelated to Titan.
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what a beast, how do double chip cards generally work these days? Do they stutter much or have any common problems ?

I bet its loud, if u r getting 1 of these WCing it would be awesome
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So who is gonna get one at launch for when they sell out!

Heck yes! thumb.giftongue.gif
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While all the people smarter than me (which is everyone here tongue.gif) are debating about important things such as price of something that most here will never buy, this one is for the conspiracy theorists:

1. Nividia and AMD have decided to put their differences aside and price rig the industry to get intel like premiums; or
2 . Nvidia is throwing a curve ball to AMD prior to AMD's dual card release


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1. Nividia and AMD have decided to put their differences aside and price rig the industry to get intel like premiums

History does tend to repeat...
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I didn't catch the comments but I don't know how what you said couldn't be true.

Back in 2008, XFX, BFG, and EVGA gave early adopters of the GTX 280 partial refunds. Why? Shortly after the launch of the 280 AMD countered with the 4850 and 4870 which came close in performance but at a much lower price. The GTX 280 was released with a $650 MSRP while the 4870 came in at $299. Nvidia immediately countered with a price drop to $450.

I am an Nvidia fan myself. I just am. Don't think for a second I don't root for AMD though because frankly, it's money back in my pocket.

He specifically claimed that titan-z is that expensive because nvidia has no competition. Albeit both nvidia and AMD offer the same kind of performance for only a fragment of the price in the form of 2 cards and AMD has already a similar GPU coming - probably at half the price or less.

Nvidia set the prices because they are the market leaders. AMD follows. Nvidia drops prices only when it is severely undercut by a formidable product (4870, 290 etc). As someone else has said, the 290 would probably be even cheaper if 780 had a lower original price.
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History does tend to repeat...


Wow! I did not know this. Why isn't there are class action going on right now??


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1011695/judge-backs-action-nvidia-amd-price-fixing

Judge backs action against Nvidia and AMD on price fixing
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Wed Jul 16 2008

IN A BARELY-REPORTED development, a judge has lauded evidence in a case against apparent arch-rivals Nvidia and AMD which stand accused of artificially keeping the price of graphics cards high.

A San Franciscan law suit combines "at least" 51 separate civil complaints against the GPU makers, according to a report here.

District Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California was shown an email that had passed between the two firms which suggested ways of appearing to compete with one another while keeping prices high.

"This is not a bad document for you," he told the plaintiffs after reading the email during a hearing held on July 1st. "It is not a home run, but it is a base hit," he said.

Lawyers from Nvidia and ATI were told off by the judge for claiming such documents were trade secrets.

"This court is not a wholly-owned subsidiary of your companies. I am against you hiding information from the public," he said, adding, "If we get to summary judgment in this case nothing will be under seal."

Even, "if it is under seal and it is the recipe for Coke, you have my permission to blurt it out," he said.


We like the sound of this judge already.

Some nine million documents have been put before the court. One, a 2002 e-mail written by Nvidia senior vice president of marketing, Dan Vivoli, to ATI's president and chief operating officer, Dave Orton said: "I really think we should work harder together on the marketing front. As you and I have talked about, even though we are competitors, we have the common goal of making our category a well positioned, respected playing field. $5 and $8 stocks are a result of no respect."

"A jury would like to see this," the judge remarked.

Complainants against the pair include Microsoft, Dell and Apple amongst others.
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Wow! I did not know this. Why isn't there are class action going on right now??


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1011695/judge-backs-action-nvidia-amd-price-fixing

Judge backs action against Nvidia and AMD on price fixing
Article title needs work. Technically it was ATI not AMD. AMD Aquired ATI in 2006, unfortunately the case was made that AMDs purchase also gave them ownership of the illegal dealings from 2002.
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