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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

lol NVIDIA is out of control. Take two overpriced $1000 GPU's, put them together into one PCB (which has always been cheaper than two individual cards and will also be slower than two individual cards), and then add $1000. wth.gif


What did you expect? Enthusiasts like yourself throwing big money at Nvidia every chance you guys get, Nvidias head has inflated the size on Jupiter!
post #502 of 747
What surprises me is that it is Nvidia's marketing director that sends the email, yet both companies get to be litigated. People offer way too much credit for Nvidia, imo.
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Why is it that AMD has to FORCE NVIDIA to do the things that they could do without even being forced? For example, NVIDIA started working to optimize drivers for DX11 AFTER AMD Mantle, even though NVIDIA could do this a long time ago. Similarly, when AMD released HD 7970, NVIDIA instead of launching GK110 for their customers, they brought their second best chip due to lack of competition for the god-tier chip. mad.gif
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Why is it that AMD has to FORCE NVIDIA to do the things that they could do without even being forced? For example, NVIDIA started working to optimize drivers for DX11 AFTER AMD Mantle, even though NVIDIA could do this a long time ago. Similarly, when AMD released HD 7970, NVIDIA instead of launching GK110 for their customers, they brought their second best chip due to lack of competition for the god-tier chip. mad.gif

What does NV have to gain other than a destructive price war with AMD?
post #505 of 747
Copied from the Class-Action lawsuit against Nvidia/ATI on price fixing. Sorry about the messed up indents, that's how it got copied.


Gee...why does this look familiar?? (in bold).
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Nature of the Case

2.
During the Class Period, Defendants Nvid
ia and ATI conducted numerous secret
meetings and communications in which they conspire
d to fix, raise, maintain and stabilize prices
of GPUs sold in the United States. At these m
eetings, Defendants also colluded to coordinate the
timing of new product introductions that were ba
sed on similar, competing technologies which
also had the effect of fixing, ra
ising, maintaining, a
nd stabilizing GPU prices. Advanced Micro
Devices, Inc. (“AMD”), which finalized its ac
quisition of ATI on October 25, 2006, participated
in this conspiracy as a successor in interest
to ATI for the period preceding the acquisition and
through its operation of ATI in the period following the acquisition.

3.
As detailed with more specificity below,
prior to entering the conspiracy, Nvidia
and ATI competed vigorously on innovation, sp
eed-to-market, and price, with product
introductions at varying times and price point
s, often leapfrogging each other in product
advances. This competition was consistent
with competitive sectors of the consumer
electronics/computer industry, which generally
are characterized by increasing performance and
decreasing prices.


4.
After the conspiracy began, a new pattern emerged. The formerly competitive
entities began a pattern of introduc
ing products simultaneously or n
ear simultaneously at identical
or near identical prices. In
addition, GPU prices trended upw
ard while the prices of GPU
components and raw materials, and the prices
of comparable products, most notably CPUs,
continued to drop. The alleged c
onduct is consistent
with conspiracy and inconsistent with
independent competitive conduct. In short, th
e GPU market has not functioned as would be
expected of a competitive market during the conspiracy.

5.
A federal grand jury is currently con
ducting an investigation of Defendants’
conduct as alleged in this Comp
laint and has issued grand jury
subpoenas to Defendants Nvidia
and AMD in connection with that investiga
tion. The economic evid
ence also supports the
specific conspiratorial agreement that is under i
nvestigation and that is being alleged in this
Complaint, evidence that is inconsistent with in
dependent competitive conduct. In particular, the
structure of the relevant market and economic
data on pricing and supply illustrate that this
market has not functioned as would be expected
of a competitive market during the Class Period.
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Are you doing stand up comedy when you say 780 was "gimped"? EVERY gpu on the planet is "gimped". They sell 'ungimped' professional cards since forever and now they sell luxury overpriced products too like the Titan.

The fact of the matter is Alatar is right, there was always an expensive card, but that's because the manufacturing cost is high.

Alatar was wrong to say the Titan is in that group. It's not. The 780 is. The Titan is a luxury product. It does not reflect cost.

I'm assuming the gimped comment was directed at yours truly....

As for the "stand up comedy" quib.....well aren't you a clever fox tongue.gif

Luxury GPU's? My good man....No jury is going to buy that defense

What about the $700 780ti, is that also reasonable by your standards?

What if the GTX880 was 800 or more, how then, would you feel?

Where do you sir, draw the line?

No, never-mind, don't answer....I guarantee Nvidia will eventually step over it, wherever it may be wink.gif
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Sadly, the reason they make these cards despite their price is because they sell...
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Anyone think of April fools' by Nvidia? Just sayin'
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Anyone think of April fools' by Nvidia? Just sayin'

Would be even more funny.
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Anyone think of April fools' by Nvidia? Just sayin'

I don't think it is April Fool. If the card is proven to be fake that will negatively affect the reputation of the company, after all the announcements and stuff. The card has already been discussed at the conference, I don't think Nvidia is stupid enough to make it this far.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 3/28/14 at 10:06am
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