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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

For gaming specifically GPU to GPU communication might see a benefit, but I doubt it. (Didn't AMD try something similar with Sideport?) CPU to GPU on the other hand isn't bottlenecked unless it's by latency, otherwise you'd actually see a difference between PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 2.0 with a modern card.

GPGPU should see some good benefits from it, though.

Sideport was dedicated memory for the iGPU on some older AMD chipsets (790G, 780G, etc). Not in any way similar to NVLink.

CPU to GPU bandwidth isn't really a bottleneck in most games, but it is a bottleneck for compute processes that rely on both the CPU and GPU.
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Considering the fact that Unified Memory is being introduced alongside, along with 3D Memory as now called and whatever else might come with Pascall, this is interesting... communication between multiple GPUs at least would be good. in this case. If Intel/AMD adopt NVLink then this could be truly interesting, latency could (highly likely) be a reduction focus too. There's a lot of maybes, potentials and perhaps but it's interesting.

Remembering also the whole prior about integrating ARM cores right with the GPU in Maxwell, I wonder if that's happening this year still.
Edited by CoD511 - 3/26/14 at 1:17am
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Awesome news!
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Don't forget that Nvidia and Intel both share patents and work together up to a certain level. This is where the intel HD current basic tech comes from.
So Nvidia might get this done with Intel, as they are not direct competitors, and it will help both platforms.
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Interesting. Hopefully this will make it into x86 platform as well. I could see AMD supporting this as this would open up additional possibilities for them to integrate the discrete GPU's into HSA paradigm. Atm, as far as I understand its rather hard to establish unified address space between discrete GPU and CPU memory spaces but with some additional link ... welll ...

Wonder how will this be implemented. Will it be some kind of "extended" PCI-e x16 slot or will it just do some kind of magic over the existing PCIe lanes. Main disadvantage atm when doing GPU Compute on discrete GPU's is the horrible latency and having to flush the GPU memory to get to it's contents. Having some really snappy low latency way of going for GPU memory, even better if it's in shared address space... well that could make more loads viable for GPU's, even if the additional link would be of relatively modest bandwidth compared to, say full x16 or x8 PCIe 3.0. Ofc AMD could always come out with somekind of their own standard out of spite but in my opinion it would be better to have one interface which everyone uses as this increases the likelyhood that Intel would have to support that as well on their platform. Intel could use this kind of suff also with their Phi cards perhaps.

Hmm it's going to be a whole new socket it seems.
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Although future NVIDIA GPUs will continue to support PCIe, NVLink technology will be used for connecting GPUs to NVLink-enabled CPUs as well as providing high-bandwidth connections directly between multiple GPUs. Also, despite its very high bandwidth, NVLink is substantially more energy efficient per bit transferred than PCIe.

NVIDIA has designed a module to house GPUs based on the Pascal architecture with NVLink. This new GPU module is one-third the size of the standard PCIe boards used for GPUs today. Connectors at the bottom of the Pascal module enable it to be plugged into the motherboard, improving system design and signal integrity.

Edited by Carniflex - 3/26/14 at 1:25am
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What about a Nvidia branded memory modules with NVLink or NVLink controller on motherboard connecting to ram? Just spit balling.

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Sideport was dedicated memory for the iGPU on some older AMD chipsets (790G, 780G, etc). Not in any way similar to NVLink.

CPU to GPU bandwidth isn't really a bottleneck in most games, but it is a bottleneck for compute processes that rely on both the CPU and GPU.

That's what it was used for in the end, but it was also in the HD48*0 GPUs to help with inter-GPU communication on dual GPU cards, but was disabled.
    
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I wonder how much benefit would it bring to real-time performance in gaming. Maybe like Mantle?
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For compute power it's great but i'm not sure how great it will be for games in comparison to a dedicated API like mantle.

Why does it need a comparison to Mantle? They do completely different things, and the technology isn't inherently mutually exclusive.
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GPUs dont even benfit much from PCIE 3.0. How will this help?
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Nvidia..... seriously, ur tegra is a failure, just buy cyrix for its x86 license from VIA, then we will have trio complete in PC market. biggrin.gif

additionally, I think it would be nice to replace SLI connector with Nvlink. Gonna love it since I only have PCIE 2.0 8x here, aint gonna be enough for bridge-less 290x crossfire.

i think intel put a stipulation in that says if anyone bought via or cyrix the x86 license is null and void.

besides they would still need the amd64 license.
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