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Hello all

I am building a new PC and just wanted to do a quick head check - there seem to be some really sharp guys on this site that may be able to tell me if I'm crazy, or if I should be looking at some other things.

My uses for this machine will be many - lots of gaming, but also video editing and lots of video transcoding in bulk - I would like to run multiple virtual machines most of the time, doing various (mostly light) tasks. Mostly, I am hoping to build a machine that can last me for a while. I'm interested in overclocking, if it's not overly complicated, but I'm relatively new to it. The last time I overclocked a build was in 2002 on an AMD Thunderbird chip.

Here is what I'm thinking for the pieces and parts, based mostly on research here and on Tom's:

ASUS Maximus VI Formula
Intel i7-4770K
G.SKILL Trident X 32 Gb (4x8Gb) DDR3 2133
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 PSU
Crucial M500 480Gb SATA SDD
Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler
EVGA GeForce 780Ti (perahaps waiting for coming 6Gb version, possibly SLI in the future)

I'm going to use my existing 6 x 1Tb SATA (3Gbps) drives, but put the OS and a few games on the SSD. I'm also going to use my existing DVD drive with an IDE to SATA adaptor.

One of the reasons for going with the Formula instead of the Hero is that I want the integrated 802.11ac functionality.

I know many will say it's WAY overkill on the memory - and perhaps that's true - but with the RAMdisk capabilities, I'm hoping that I can play games directly from RAM, while still allowing some background VM's to run (particularly my home automation and web server VM's).

I haven't picked out a case yet. I was going to see if everything fit in my existing case. It's extremely old, but I like it. Am I dreaming here? It's a Cooler Master ATC-201 mid-tower. See this link:
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/cases/CoolerMaster_ATC-201/index.htm

Open to any and all comments - thanks!

Steve
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lots of video related work, you will want a i7 six core. multiple vm's running + doing your day to day tasks and not hinder performance, you will want a i7 six core. most will say its not necessary but i say different. you want it to last a while you said. u can invest in a 4930k and not have to upgrade for atleast the next generation. i understand its a lil more than what you want to spend but really, when you factor in the board, cpu and ram, its not really all that much. if anything, its about 200 dollars more. even better if you have a microcenter near you. if you didn't say you were doing heavy vm use and video things, id say your build is perfect. but for what you want, its better to be over prepared than under.
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Thanks for your response and for taking a look!

If I went with the 4930K I'd also have to choose a different motherboard since it's an Ivy Bridge processor. I was thinking along the lines of Haswell just to be at the latest architecture - is that the wrong way of looking at it?

It does look like it's not that much more expensive, and if it will add a ton more performance then I will start looking at other motherboards. When i first looked at the i7 Extreme chips they looked a lot more expensive, but I see that the 4930K is actually not that bad compared to the 4770K. It looks like the 4930K doesn't have an integrated GPU, which is fine since I don't need it - perhaps that makes it a better chip price/performance since I'm putting my money where I will use it?
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You dont need 1000 watts even for SLI only if you are going 3 way or are going to overvolt your 2x video cards do you need 1000 watts

There is a 750 and 850 watts G2 now so you can save a little there
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Thanks for the tip. Will it be negative in any way to go with the 1000? Does it generate significantly more heat or noise? I was thinking that as I add new drives or devices, I just don't want to have to think about power.

Too much headroom?
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Thanks for the tip. Will it be negative in any way to go with the 1000? Does it generate significantly more heat or noise? I was thinking that as I add new drives or devices, I just don't want to have to think about power.

Too much headroom?
Too much headroom, you will waist, on average, 40% more power while your system is running, which is substantial. Just do whatever shilka says PSU wise lol.

Ya for the stuff you want to do, I would go for Ivy-e and get yourself a 4930k and a UP5 motherboard from gigabyte. Also, your RAM will interfere with your CPU cooler, those heatsinks on the ram are massive. Go for the lower profile Ares or Sniper from G.skill or change to an AIO watercooler like the Corsair H100i.

Also your totally dreaming, get a case with better airflow for your components. If you want minimalist looking case, the Fractal Design Define R4 is right up your alley!

As for your SSD, I personally recommend the Samsung EVO 500GB. I have the Pro 256 and I love it. Also has a feature build into the software that can pull some of your RAM GB's to run faster temporarily which is nice.

*EDIT*
I do alot of the same things as you except for running VM's. I never regret going from my 2600k to the 3930K. Not even for a second thumb.gif
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Thanks for the tip. Will it be negative in any way to go with the 1000? Does it generate significantly more heat or noise? I was thinking that as I add new drives or devices, I just don't want to have to think about power.

Too much headroom?

Why waste money for no reason

Even 750 watts gives you option for SLI and OC
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Good tips guys, thanks!

I'm looking in to cases now - probably the Cooler Master HAF X. I'd like something quieter, but I'm not finding anything with good reviews that's also mentions fan noise (and loos as cool as the HAF X)

I'll bump down the power supply to an 850W.

I think the Trident memory should work fine - I checked at Noctua's website and as long as I remove the flares on the top (which seem to just be for show) it should fit fine with my CPU cooler.

I also think I'm going to stick with the i7-4770K for now. I don't need to spend the extra $$, especially now that I'm buying a $200 case, and my video editing and transcoding isn't all that heavy. Nor are the VM's… I will see how things perform and if need be, I'll leave them running on other machines.

I appreciate all the advice. Thanks again!
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Good tips guys, thanks!

I'm looking in to cases now - probably the Cooler Master HAF X. I'd like something quieter, but I'm not finding anything with good reviews that's also mentions fan noise (and loos as cool as the HAF X)

I'll bump down the power supply to an 850W.

I think the Trident memory should work fine - I checked at Noctua's website and as long as I remove the flares on the top (which seem to just be for show) it should fit fine with my CPU cooler.

I also think I'm going to stick with the i7-4770K for now. I don't need to spend the extra $$, especially now that I'm buying a $200 case, and my video editing and transcoding isn't all that heavy. Nor are the VM's… I will see how things perform and if need be, I'll leave them running on other machines.

I appreciate all the advice. Thanks again!
No reason to buy a $200 case honestly.
The fractal R4 is already super quiet with great cooling. If you want something else, look at the Phantom series from NZXT. All of them are fairly quiet with great airflow.
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Dont bother with the HAF X i have it now and i am going to replace it with this
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