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People that hold bitcoins, here are your options...

You keep the coins and just exchange them for goods and services directly, with an entity that isn't likely to report the transaction to the taxing authorities. This keeps you under the radar....

or

You convert them to USD and cash them out, any legal way of doing this is going to generate some paper trail and will be easily caught by the taxing authorities.

Anyone that honestly thinks they can convert the coins to currency and get away with it in the long run is just fooling themselves here. The systems are very much in place to track money once it is converted into real currency. There is always a paper trail at this point, and they just have to get their hands on it.
    
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

You convert them to USD and cash them out, any legal way of doing this is going to generate some paper trail and will be easily caught by the taxing authorities.

Anyone trying to commit significant tax evasion isn't going to be overly concerned about adding money laundering to the list.
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

You convert them to USD and cash them out, any legal way of doing this is going to generate some paper trail and will be easily caught by the taxing authorities.

Unless the IRS can prove that you have been holding on to the coins for less than a year (or if you have been holding them for a year+), anyone in the 15% and under tax bracket (up to $36,900 for single or $73,800 for joint) would have zero tax liability... The benefits of this being a capital gains tax thumb.gif
Edited by Slomo4shO - 3/25/14 at 3:45pm
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So you think the goverment should just pay for public schools, fire, the army and other such services out of their own pocket...............With the income they don't get if we don't pay taxes. tax dollars are def not spent perfectly but without them the US or any country would not be nearly as good as they are.

no, the government pays for all that with loans from the federal reserve... where your tax dollars go.
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Trying to beat the power bill, losing money on transactions, and now the IRS wants their cut?

Mining is on tilt. Sell those GPUs now before the market is flooded with them or you'll lose even more money on low resell value.
nobody mines bitcoins with a gpu anymore you silly thumb.gif
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I knew this was coming, waiting on market flood of used cards! smile.gif

No kidding. Imma pick up another 7950 and watercool both of them.
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No kidding. Imma pick up another 7950 and watercool both of them.

Come to think of it... That would be an awesome way for me to avoid the temptation of a 780 Ti and wait for maxwell. I'm gonna have to pickup a Reference 7950 to match my current one, that should hold me over thumb.gif
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Unless the IRS can prove that you have been holding on to the coins for less than a year (or if you have been holding them for a year+), anyone in the 15% and under tax bracket (up to $36,900 for single or $73,800 for joint) would have zero tax liability... The benefits of this being a capital gains tax thumb.gif

This is why I've pretty much never had to pay federal income taxes, the overwhelming bulk of my official income is long term capital gains and always has been.
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So you think the goverment should just pay for public schools, fire, the army and other such services out of their own pocket...............With the income they don't get if we don't pay taxes. tax dollars are def not spent perfectly but without them the US or any country would not be nearly as good as they are.

I'm not a believer in the nation-state concept, and would rather see all of the services a government traditionally provides be both optional and privatized.
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Sold my BTC for USD in person. Tax that suckers.
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I honestly don't know how they could legally do this. Isn't the point of btc to avoid all of the political bloat?
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