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You can watch me not buy one on day one, and watch me not have a facebook account for the last 10 years, and watch me not be a hipster. As all hipsters have facebook accounts, where else are they going to link pictures of their overly expensive coffee beans & vegan dinners?

So far Zucker has been nothing but a datamining parasite. It took Microsoft decades to get to that point, & Billy was gone way before then. tongue.gif
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two models. Desktop model, and derp model w/ IGPU.

I still don't think CV1 will have an iGPU, or even 2 models. Right now (I guess) they want to make 1 very good version at as low cost as possible, so iGPU would (possibly) be too expensive.

 

I have a faint hope they can get a custom 1440p (90 or 120Hz) for CV1, and then for CV2 may create tiers.

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yeah I don't think DK2 or CV1 will change. I'm talking about after that.
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And VR was looking so promising too. If someone can flank Facebook's VR patents things will all be good. If not then at least we have 4K coming up.

Either way Oculus is dead to me now. It doesn't matter who they hire either. Facebook will always be at the wheel. Facebook will always control the patents that come out of Oculus.

I respect Notch for dropping support for Oculus.
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finally some one talking some sense. My #1 biggest fear is that Facebook attempts to lock down the industry by A.) buying up VR companies with ideas not part of OR B.) patent EVERYTHING.
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So, Facebook looks to be diversifying to compensate for the inevitable pop of the bubble that is the heavily overvalued Facebook.
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Ermm.... what exactly is wrong with facebook buying Oculus? headscratch.gif
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My concern isn't that they'll make it a closed system. My concern is they're going to push the development to tailor it to be more efficient for their software needs. Zuckerberg also said that he wanted to make it available to everyone. while that sounds all well and good that means making it available at a price that everyone can afford. And again with the features that make it easily compatible with a social network. which means cost cutting and compromises. Hopefully they'll still make a high end model but given FB is a smart company they'll likely make one model and cut features for the different price points. which means all the junk on the low end will be on the high end too.

That basically sums up my concerns. It'll become the jack of all trades and master of none.

OK, I understand where you're coming from now. It's always annoying when a good enthusiast product gets dumbed down for the masses.

In that case I would argue that they can make very good hardware without compromises while achieving a reasonable price point because their goal is not to make money off the units, but later down the road with their Metaverse.

Just look at Google's Nexus line. The goal of the line is to get people into the Google ecosystem and set the bar for the OEMs, not to make big profits from the hardware and as such they've delivered very good hardware at very competitive prices.

Oculus was talking about possibly subsidizing the Rift enough to offer it for free almost a year ago: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/07/15/oculus-rift-team-want-to-release-consumer-version-of-the-headset-for-free/. They've already said that they plan to push publishing much more heavily now that they have Facebook's resources and Facebook has said they're willing to sell the Rift at cost, so between the two I think the price will be low enough for non-hardcore gamers to consider while still delivering the best hardware available.

Long-term they could do like the mobile phone industry and offer last year's model at a lower price for those on a budget rather than making cut-down versions of the latest design.

Edit: Also, I can't think of anything they would add hardware-wise that would make it better for social networking that would be a detriment to gaming (except maybe a built-in credit card swiper, can anyone say micro-transactions?). Eye tracking, hand tracking, voice recognition, etc. are all things that would greatly benefit both the social aspect AND gaming.

I would say that it's not what they would add but rather that social media would take precidence over gaming and ultimately what they would take away. For example to market it to everyone for a casual purpose, a $350 price tag is way too high. So how do you get it down to the ~$100 level? well 1080p might be as high as they go. 60-75hz (75hz simply because that's what's already planned for dk2) might be as fast as it goes. lower latency screen might be too expense to fit the budget model. bespoke parts sounds good but if they're cheap and made in china then that doesn't make things better. oled could be replaced by led. There's dozens of ways that corners could be cut to meet the price point. Corners that don't matter to the social media experience but one's that gamers would definitely notice.

I know oculus vr talked about getting it as cheap as possible but they talked about it being subsidized and although things get cheaper they still had the priority of immersed gaming. The minimum requirements for immersed gaming are much higher then casual social networking.
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According to Palmer the CV1 will be better than the Valve Steam Dev Days target.

http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/21nmu9/any_chance_of_a_news_update_coming_to_clear_a_few/cgeuzw5




While I'm worried about headsets further along after CV1, I'm sure by the time Facebook goes full monetize mode on Oculus, there will be alternatives that can improve past the Oculus CV1. I'll most likely be open to buying the CV1. If because of the Facebook acquisition it comes out at under $300 and Facebook hasn't had the time yet to integrate any random pieces of software into it, then I'll warm up to this acquisition. I'm always willing to jump ship to some other product. I'm hoping Oculus is successful enough that the big names in PC peripherals and monitors jump in with their own products.
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sleepysmileyanim.gif

OR has likely sealed their coffin as the gaming device in the long run. Some one else will now take their place as the go to gaming device. (after CV1)



I'll be keeping my Nvidia surround for another year it seems. I vow to not give facebook a penny.
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