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You can also Adblock google. Google ads don't pop up when i'm in game. A Facebook account will likely be a requirement AFTER CV1. Pop ups will likely be an OPTION... IE: Something you can disable. popups in game would likely only happen if the programmers of the game make it happen. My guess is that 99% of the people complaining about this use facebook daily/weekly. OR is an extension of your computer, it is your monitor, you wear it on your head. Everything you see on your monitor, you will see on your OR. What ever software works on your computer will work on your OR.
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They said that they didn't want to be bought by companies with their own VR agenda that may conflict with theirs.

FB came out of absolutely nowhere (it appears) as a potential buyer, and with no existing VR agenda. With the amount FB threw at them it's not hard to see why Oculus accepted - lower sell price for CV1, probably nothing much/any interference from FB for a few years, lots of resources to draw on, and a hell of a lot of money for the founders themselves, with the rest going to get the VCs off their backs.

With all those benefits, you'd need some major deal-breakers to reasonably decline.
-"FB are evil"
-"FB datamine"
-"FB will eventually interfere"
do not fall into this category, and I for one still fail to see the problem with targeted ads. Google does exactly the same, and I'd much rather see hardware ads than ads for gardening (or the like).


I guess its best to see what happens when they come out with CV1
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They will have ads and datamining for the consumer version, this is just how FB make their money. What FB doesn't understand is this tech is at it's infancy, any negative publicity like this can cause VR to fail. I always avoided FB because of their lack to privacy, but by buying out Oculus they could seriously push back VR for years. Hopefully Sony will make a good VR headset, then I'm sure by next gen (PS5 and Xbox Two) in a few years the second gen VR will be more mainstream.
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They will have ads and datamining for the consumer version, this is just how FB make their money. What FB doesn't understand is this tech is at it's infancy, any negative publicity like this can cause VR to fail. I always avoided FB because of their lack to privacy, but by buying out Oculus they could seriously push back VR for years. Hopefully Sony will make a good VR headset, then I'm sure by next gen (PS5 and Xbox Two) in a few years the second gen VR will be more mainstream.
How do you data mine of keystrokes and clicks? That's what your saying they are going to do. VR head sets are only a periphial. Just like a keyboard and mouse. The data they mine will be mined regardless if your using a VR headset or not.
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How do you data mine of keystrokes and clicks? That's what your saying they are going to do. VR head sets are only a periphial. Just like a keyboard and mouse. The data they mine will be mined regardless if your using a VR headset or not.

As pointed out in good number of previous posts in this thread it's not quite "just a screen" as there are additional tracking possibilities, like, for example, the previously mentioned eye tracking taking note how long and what are you looking at.
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As pointed out in good number of previous posts in this thread it's not quite "just a screen" as there are additional tracking possibilities, like, for example, the previously mentioned eye tracking taking note how long and what are you looking at.
That is the same exact thing as veiwing a page for 20 minutes, and the data being stored for that. So your telling me then, that my smart stay and smart scroll info is being recorded while on facebook with my andriod phone?
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That is the same exact thing as veiwing a page for 20 minutes, and the data being stored for that. So your telling me then, that my smart stay and smart scroll info is being recorded while on facebook with my andriod phone?

No it is not the same. It would be the same if your monitor would have a little camera that can track your eye movements and would report to FB how long you are looking at what parts of your screen exactly, that you are actually present at the screen, if you alt-tab out and what you do if you alt-tab out, etc. .
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They will have ads and datamining for the consumer version, this is just how FB make their money. What FB doesn't understand is this tech is at it's infancy, any negative publicity like this can cause VR to fail. I always avoided FB because of their lack to privacy, but by buying out Oculus they could seriously push back VR for years. Hopefully Sony will make a good VR headset, then I'm sure by next gen (PS5 and Xbox Two) in a few years the second gen VR will be more mainstream
.


I think you are under estimating Facebook. They are well aware of the technologies position in the current market. It is pretty much only in the mindshare, and has JUST NOW moved into the "masses" mindshare. This is why they won't be changing anything until after Consumer Version #1.

They will find ways to integrate hardware/software to datamine, if they don't find other ways to pay the bills.

1.) Eye tracking (eye tracking would be a redundancy on top of farming clicks)
2.) Temp tracking.
3.) Breath rate.
4.) Blood pressure.
5.) Heart rate.

Some of these things are already being designed into new cellphone releases. It isn't that far fetched.

ad streaming & facebook pop ups will be disable-able, but account requirement will likely exist post CV1. They will just follow suit on 90% of other peripherals that have their own software. Example: Razer.
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If data over what I like is the cost of extremely high-quality eye-tracking, I'm all for it.

 

They can discover that I like computer hardware and games, whereas now they only know that I like computer hardware and games...

 

and I can get some awesome foveated rendering so I can run my 4K Rift :D

 

 

And the other stuff? Can be hacked later.

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Any form of monitoring will get hacked ou, but for how long? Principal. People seem to forget about this thing called principal and expectation of privacy... Even if law states you only have privacy in your bedroom/bathroom.
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