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CPU: i5 2500k
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 LE
Cooler: Corsair H60
GFX: Sapphire HD 7870 XT w/ Boost
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)

I am considering an upgrade for my processor at the same time, but I desperately want to get rid of my dreadful LE board that I made a mistake purchasing when I first built my computer.
post #2 of 27
Honestly, a 4670k won't be much better than your 2500k. I'd suggest just purchasing a new board if you really dislike your board that much.
post #3 of 27
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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

Honestly, a 4670k won't be much better than your 2500k. I'd suggest just purchasing a new board if you really dislike your board that much.

The 2500k is still a beast of a chip, find a used board here on the marketplace, or spend your money on something like a new graphics card or an ssd.

The 2500k sandy may lose out on IPC but it can overclock further. If you can get it up to 5ghz it should be as fast as the haswell at 4.something ghz. And haswell doesn't notorious for not overclocking far.
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The 2500k is still a beast of a chip, find a used board here on the marketplace, or spend your money on something like a new graphics card or an ssd.

The 2500k sandy may lose out on IPC but it can overclock further. If you can get it up to 5ghz it should be as fast as the haswell at 4.something ghz. And haswell doesn't notorious for not overclocking far.


That's a misconception. Sure, it is probably easier to hit 5.0 on a SB chip, but Haswell isn't a completely mature chip like SB is. I have had two 4770k's and a 4670k. The 4770k's b both did 4.7Ghz with respectable voltages and the 4670k did 4.6 with respectable voltages. Haswell is about 20% faster because of IPC improvements, but that honestly isn't much considering the changes in performance we have seen in the past. The CPU market has become kind of stale in a sense that we have seen generation performance changes we have seen in the past (first gen i series to SB for instance)
post #5 of 27
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That's a misconception. Sure, it is probably easier to hit 5.0 on a SB chip, but Haswell isn't a completely mature chip like SB is. I have had two 4770k's and a 4670k. The 4770k's b both did 4.7Ghz with respectable voltages and the 4670k did 4.6 with respectable voltages. Haswell is about 20% faster because of IPC improvements, but that honestly isn't much considering the changes in performance we have seen in the past. The CPU market has become kind of stale in a sense that we have seen generation performance changes we have seen in the past (first gen i series to SB for instance)

Ohh I understand. The changes from sandy to ivy to haswell have all been incremental, and not huge.

But with all of that being said, you still say going from sandy to haswell is not a huge jump. So with the Roughly 20% IPC boost the sandy would have to hit 5.5 to match the 4670k at 4.6.

So would you also agree that in just gaming, having a sandy bridge cpu is more than adequate even today for gaming and in real world use?

Is it worth spending $200 on a new cpu and almost $200 on another motherboard just to get that little bump? I would say no, unless the op has to be on the absolute bleeding edge, which is fine too.

In the end I would say overclock that cpu as far as it can go, see if you can get a z77 motherboard for cheap if it is really bothering you.
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SB is still perfectly fine for gaming. That's not what I was trying to say. I was just pointing out a common misconception about Haswell and its "inability" to overclock well.
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SB is still perfectly fine for gaming. That's not what I was trying to say. I was just pointing out a common misconception about Haswell and its "inability" to overclock well.

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I knew that getting a haswell chip to 4.9 or 4.8 isn't as common as the previous CPUs, so the inability was relative to it's predecessors wink.gif

Sorry I'm by no means a haswell basher!
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Out of 3 4670k one over clocks to 4.5 and another to 4.7. One ended up being a dog that needed 1.4v for 4.4.

On the risk of buying one of the ladder. Which is rather high 1/3 in my case. I would just upgrade the mobo and cooling and get that 2500 to 5ghz. At 5ghz its gonna last a few more years.
Edited by Wirerat - 3/26/14 at 4:17am
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post #9 of 27
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This is all good help on the CPU that I'll be getting, but I'll reiterate the main problem. I desperately want to get rid of my dreadful LE board. Should I be looking into CPU/Mobo combos on newegg or avoid combo packs?
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This is all good help on the CPU that I'll be getting, but I'll reiterate the main problem. I desperately want to get rid of my dreadful LE board. Should I be looking into CPU/Mobo combos on newegg or avoid combo packs?
microcenter has the best combos. Combo pricing is fine if you limit the combo to cpu/mobo.

Your not interested in just getting a http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z77-V-PRO-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007G51UV0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1395847697&sr=1-1&keywords=Z77+asus and using the cpu you have?
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