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NEX models are mediocre and overpriced they are not dangerous or will blow up like some of the crap from HEC or even worse Golden Tiger

Exactly. Then make it clear that is the conclusion.
Every tiem you create such a thread people think it is an accident waiting to happen while in reality all you are basically saying is that there are better units out there for similar money and similar units for less money.

You should learn to choose your words more carefully and moreover; learn that this is an international forum and not every brand and type is available in every country.

I really like coming to OCN and read good written comments from people that know what they talk about and help out the entire community that way.
You just seem to be here to hurt companies and crash products into the groud. How the section moderators tolerate your threads is beyond me.
 
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How else would anyone know whats mediocre and i dont really care what you or anyone thinks

Fact are still facts if anyone dont like them then dont read this thread or the others

I am allowed to say whatever i want its called free speech ever heard of that?

And since when was it not allowed to criticize a product for its flaws?

If you are just here to complain then go away
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How else would anyone know whats mediocre and i dont really care what you or anyone thinks

Fact are still facts if anyone dont like them then dont read this thread or the others

I am allowed to say whatever i want its called free speech ever heard of that?

And since when was it not allowed to criticize a product for its flaws?

If you are just here to complain then go away

Same for me and for you mate.

Fact are still facts if anyone dont like them then dont read this.

I am allowed to say whatever i want its called free speech ever heard of that?

And since when was it not allowed to criticize a critic for his flaws?

If you are just here to complain then go away.


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You need to learn HOW to write down critic. And how to reads others critic. You clearly do know what you are talking about. But you are extremely blunt towards products and other users. The tone in your titles and replies does not cohere with the actual "wrongness" of the product. This has been said by many in the topics, but you really do not seem to care and that is sad because your insights could be very well for the entire community as long as you learned HOW to write them down and reach the correct tone for the thread and its title.
 
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Hukkel , shilka is 100% correct.

For the $80+ / €80 the NEX series commands you're better off with a number of other PSUs.

Group regulated , crap mediocre voltage regulation, crossload issues , noise (See http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/EVGA-SuperNOVA-NEX750G-Gold-Power-Supply-Review/Final-Thoughts-and-Conclus) aren't enough for him to write "why you should not buy" one?

What would you want him to write? "why you should not buy one more than $50 / €50 "?

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When everyone keeps recommending it and i need to say the same things again and again over and over i just get tired of it and make a why you should not buy it thread

Its information and facts not outright lies and bashing despite it seems like it to some

There are tons of other units out there that are just as bad or worse, The next target would probably be the Thermaltake Toughpower Grand due to its god awful ripple suppression, That is if everyone starts recommending it
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You need to learn HOW to write down critic. And how to reads others critic. You clearly do know what you are talking about. But you are extremely blunt towards products and other users. The tone in your titles and replies does not cohere with the actual "wrongness" of the product. This has been said by many in the topics, but you really do not seem to care and that is sad because your insights could be very well for the entire community as long as you learned HOW to write them down and reach the correct tone for the thread and its title.

No.

I think he writes fine as he does, it is up to you to be a good reader and understand what he means with what he writes.
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Hukkel , shilka is 100% correct.

What would you want him to write? "why you should not buy one more than $50 / €50 "?

There are 100s of PSUs out there and each one of them are in different ranges in price and for different ranges of users etc etc. Plus priceranges are different from region to region and country to country.

The way Shilka makes these threads will give a reader the idea the PSU that gets mentioned is a horrible piece of **** that will blow up and take every other piece of hardware you have with it.
That is the tone of the threads and that is wrong on so many levels.

Lets take the Corsair RM series as an example. He bashes the PSU like he is havign fun doing it.

Where I live it is cheaper than any of its direct competitors. It is not as good as more expensive units, well yeah, they are more expensive units. They are more expensive for a reason.

In a mining thread a member on here told everyone they should never get the RM1000 because it is a horrible PSU and linked to Shilkas thread.
Why? Because that is how people think of the RM series after the bashing he did.

Fact of the matter is that the people at hand might have had a perfect PSU for them in the RM1000. But just because Shilka thinks there are better units out there that cost equal or less they run away from the RM series screaming.

The titles of the topics are laying a stigma onto a brand and/or product. And this hurts the company at hand by missing out on a lot of sales. At lot of time losing it against even a perhaps worse units he didn't make a bashing topic about.

End of the line; he should understand the weight of the issues with this PSU and report accordingly. The RM series are a fine PSU range. But there are better ones in the same pricerange where Shilka lives. That is all there is to it. Outright telling people not to get it is wrong on many levels. So yeah that is what I think he should report and make titles accordingly.
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When everyone keeps recommending it and i need to say the same things again and again over and over i just get tired of it and make a why you should not buy it thread

Its information and facts not outright lies and bashing despite it seems like it to some

There are tons of other units out there that are just as bad or worse, The next target would probably be the Thermaltake Toughpower Grand due to its god awful ripple suppression, That is if everyone starts recommending it

This is exactly that you SHOULD report. Because people buy those units since you tell them not to get the EVGA in this particular case.

If the PSUs are dangerous it is a whole different ballgame. But if it is mediocre in quality and you would recommend others for the same price then do so.

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No.

I think he writes fine as he does, it is up to you to be a good reader and understand what he means with what he writes.

OCN is a community of litterally 100.000s of users. Once you have people look up to you and your knowledge you should also take that responsibility and report accordingly.
Not everyone reading here is a skilled user. Perhaps you are, but others might not be.
 
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Lets take the Corsair RM series as an example. He bashes the PSU like he is havign fun doing it.
Because the PSU is overpriced for its quality. It's quality is obviously overrated by many people.
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Where I live it is cheaper than any of its direct competitors. It is not as good as more expensive units, well yeah, they are more expensive units. They are more expensive for a reason.
Look at the prices weigh the options. He never says not to get a PSU under all circumstances, he says that considering the price (where he is) there are better options, and if there are better options there is NO REASON to get the worse option.
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In a mining thread a member on here told everyone they should never get the RM1000 because it is a horrible PSU and linked to Shilkas thread.
Why? Because that is how people think of the RM series after the bashing he did.
The PSU is horrible compared to what it should be considering the price or the reputation it has.
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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

Fact of the matter is that the people at hand might have had a perfect PSU for them in the RM1000. But just because Shilka thinks there are better units out there that cost equal or less they run away from the RM series screaming.
The thing is there are (in most cases) better units for better prices...
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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

The titles of the topics are laying a stigma onto a brand and/or product. And this hurts the company at hand by missing out on a lot of sales. At lot of time losing it against even a perhaps worse units he didn't make a bashing topic about.
The thing is consumers should be familiar with the downsides of a product, but if a company releases a crappy product for a high price they should be bashed for it, and it should hurt their reputation so they don't do it again.
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If the PSUs are dangerous it is a whole different ballgame. But if it is mediocre in quality and you would recommend others for the same price then do so.
OCN is a community of litterally 100.000s of users. Once you have people look up to you and your knowledge you should also take that responsibility and report accordingly.
Not everyone reading here is a skilled user. Perhaps you are, but others might not be.
The terrible voltage regulation of the NEX units is potentially dangerous for the longevity of components, which is what he has continually been saying.
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Its not bashing when all that is stated are facts again if you dont like it then dont read it

And how much do you really think it hurt sales when its one thread on one forum on the internet

Also you have missed a key point, Sometimes to get someone´s attention you need to be blunt which is the very reason why its call why you should not buy to get everyone´s attention

If anyone misunderstand clear and plain english text then sory its not my problem

How much more clear could it be i cant take account for every level of stupidity or that the reader cant understand what i say

Go back and read the OP and tell me what you dont understand?
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Because the PSU is overpriced for its quality. It's quality is obviously overrated by many people.
Look at the prices weigh the options. He never says not to get a PSU under all circumstances, he says that considering the price (where he is) there are better options, and if there are better options there is NO REASON to get the worse option.
The PSU is horrible compared to what it should be considering the price or the reputation it has.
The thing is there are (in most cases) better units for better prices...
The thing is consumers should be familiar with the downsides of a product, but if a company releases a crappy product for a high price they should be bashed for it, and it should hurt their reputation so they don't do it again.
The terrible voltage regulation of the NEX units is potentially dangerous for the longevity of components, which is what he has continually been saying.

Pretty much all this
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Yeah I can c a bit of grumbling from this but that's usually how things get improved upon, from feedback and suggestions.

I guess I must be a HUGE Corsair psu fan, bcuz they've never let me down, even when they should have....lol.
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Edited by fishingfanatic - 3/27/14 at 10:12am
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