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Ah, I thought the last 2 tweets from Roy_AMD.
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This gen is especially sad in this regard as there is not even non-reference designs with 4+ DP's. Last gen there were at least those three 7870's with 6x DP in consumer lineup. Although even in last gen there was no high end card with 6x DP. It's as if it's by designs to force people who need 6 DP to go firepro as only option.

I think that's the point. Besides, what consumer really needs six monitors? Probably only the people on OCN. XD
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What I still cant understand is why can't they release consumer cards with 6x display-port?
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I think that's the point. Besides, what consumer really needs six monitors? Probably only the people on OCN. XD

I have atm 7 connected. Granted I'm guilty of being on OCN but that is not the reason I have that many smile.gif


Having that many displays does increase productivity more than having similar number of virtual desktops. Depending on what you are doing ofc. It would be silly to have to get a FirePro just to mount that many displays. That FirePro would cost me more than my current rig with all displays included and is just way outside my budget. Fortunately I have been able to grab some good consumer cards last few generations, like the 6770 Eyefinity 5 card and 7870 Eyefinity 6 card.

Consumer side anyone looking to do Eyefinity setup benefits from having a large number of displayports at their disposal as using only displayport outputs helps one to avoid the screen tearing issue that is to this day present occasionally if you have to use mix of legacy and modern outputs for the eyefinity array. Not to mention a DP is atm the only available standard to drive 4K screen at 60 Hz. Sure, we have the MST hubs at last out but they have severe bandwidth issues as you can drive only 3x 1080p screens through one at 60 Hz. But if you would want to do an Eyefinity setup with, say, for example, 5x 1440p screens at 120 Hz. Yet AMD keeps claiming that they support 6 screen eyefinity which is clearly consumer oriented thing, yet they refuse to release a any of their flagship consumer cards in a format that is actually capable of doing so properly. Related to my mini-rant I find especially sad that this generation even the Lighting and DCUII series that last gens had traditionally 4x DP's come this gen with only one DP. Not to mention the Sapphire ToxiC 8 GB vRAM version which is particularly cruel joke with it's reference output connectors design.
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Indeed. But that is last gen product. I have a Club3D version of that smile.gif This gen I'm not aware of such card. And I'm still dissapointed that they did not release any 79xx series card with more than 4x DP's last gen either.
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Indeed. But that is last gen product. I have a Club3D version of that smile.gif This gen I'm not aware of such card. And I'm still dissapointed that they did not release any 79xx series card with more than 4x DP's last gen either.

There were a lot more of them. I imagine they weren't popular enough to keep stocking. (Though I sold a couple myself)
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There were a lot more of them. I imagine they weren't popular enough to keep stocking. (Though I sold a couple myself)

The issue probably was the price. These 6x DP models were, at least in Europe, about 100 EUR pricier than their traditional counterparts. And you need only one even if your intent is to run quad fire for some Eyefinity configuration. Plus 2 GB gets a bit tight if you start pushing above 1080p screens in 5x or 6x eyefinity.

However, given option I would always go full displayports model over a "traditional" one even if there is slight price premium. Although granted 100 EUR was not a slight premium back then or today, it was just the strongest consumer card out at that moment with 6x DP and as far as I'm aware it still is to this day.
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http://www.tomshardware.de/specviewperf12-benchmark-workstation-graphics,testberichte-241490.html

minimal optimizations needed for CATIA , Maya, Autodesk Showcase

source 2 : OCN user pcfoo
http://pcfoo.com/specviewperf-12-gpu-scores/

source 3: TamaDrumz76 on OCN
http://www.overclock.net/t/1455171/amd-r9-290-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-bench-off-first-wave-complete-with-graphs-specviewperf-added

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I suspect AMD Firepro driver installs will be experimented with if Hawaii is driver locked
http://www.overclock.net/t/1403233/amd-firepro-modded-drivers-13-152-4-whql-for-radeon-cards-11-22-2013
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http://www.tomshardware.de/specviewperf12-benchmark-workstation-graphics,testberichte-241490.html

minimal optimizations needed for CATIA , Maya, Autodesk Showcase

source 2 : OCN user pcfoo
http://pcfoo.com/specviewperf-12-gpu-scores/

source 3: TamaDrumz76 on OCN
http://www.overclock.net/t/1455171/amd-r9-290-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-bench-off-first-wave-complete-with-graphs-specviewperf-added

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I suspect AMD Firepro driver installs will be experimented with if Hawaii is driver locked
http://www.overclock.net/t/1403233/amd-firepro-modded-drivers-13-152-4-whql-for-radeon-cards-11-22-2013
It seems that even without the DP fully enabled on the 780 Ti and the 290X they both do very good already. Except for some benches like the Siemens NX and the solid works benchmark.
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I have atm 7 connected. Granted I'm guilty of being on OCN but that is not the reason I have that many smile.gif


Having that many displays does increase productivity more than having similar number of virtual desktops. Depending on what you are doing ofc. It would be silly to have to get a FirePro just to mount that many displays. That FirePro would cost me more than my current rig with all displays included and is just way outside my budget. Fortunately I have been able to grab some good consumer cards last few generations, like the 6770 Eyefinity 5 card and 7870 Eyefinity 6 card.

Consumer side anyone looking to do Eyefinity setup benefits from having a large number of displayports at their disposal as using only displayport outputs helps one to avoid the screen tearing issue that is to this day present occasionally if you have to use mix of legacy and modern outputs for the eyefinity array. Not to mention a DP is atm the only available standard to drive 4K screen at 60 Hz. Sure, we have the MST hubs at last out but they have severe bandwidth issues as you can drive only 3x 1080p screens through one at 60 Hz. But if you would want to do an Eyefinity setup with, say, for example, 5x 1440p screens at 120 Hz. Yet AMD keeps claiming that they support 6 screen eyefinity which is clearly consumer oriented thing, yet they refuse to release a any of their flagship consumer cards in a format that is actually capable of doing so properly. Related to my mini-rant I find especially sad that this generation even the Lighting and DCUII series that last gens had traditionally 4x DP's come this gen with only one DP. Not to mention the Sapphire ToxiC 8 GB vRAM version which is particularly cruel joke with it's reference output connectors design.

The people buying this will probably be using 1600p, or 4k screens, not cheap 1080p/korean stuff.. So, generally speaking, this card won't be more expensive than their monitors. When did AMD say *six screen* Eyefinity was consumer stuff? Eyefinity itself it still available to consumers, you know, just not in the way certain consumers want it.

P.S. That monitor set-up looks incredibly messy. XD
Edited by DVLux - 3/28/14 at 8:17am
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