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Im not overly looking to get a stellar sound card ATM. I just found it local and went, hey this might be good. I mean all I have ATM for audio is a USB Logitech G35 headset and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's.
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Im not overly looking to get a stellar sound card ATM. I just found it local and went, hey this might be good. I mean all I have ATM for audio is a USB Logitech G35 headset and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's.

 

But if you were willing to spend that much on a sound card, then spend it on something like the Titanium HD instead which is a thousand times better.

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Im not overly looking to get a stellar sound card ATM. I just found it local and went, hey this might be good. I mean all I have ATM for audio is a USB Logitech G35 headset and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's.

Why do you have cheap-ish sound with such an expensive rig rolleyes.gif

Try wiggling it down to $20, don't take it for over $25 if you want it. I got my used Xonar STX for ~$100 off Amazon, which is a superior, newer, and better supported soundcard.
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Im not overly looking to get a stellar sound card ATM. I just found it local and went, hey this might be good. I mean all I have ATM for audio is a USB Logitech G35 headset and Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's.

But if you were willing to spend that much on a sound card, then spend it on something like the Titanium HD instead which is a thousand times better.

If he had some analog headphones a TiHD would be nice, but the G35 is USB, and it won't help speakers that much.
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Why do you have cheap-ish sound with such an expensive rig rolleyes.gif

Try wiggling it down to $20, don't take it for over $25 if you want it. I got my used Xonar STX for ~$100 off Amazon, which is a far superior, newer, and better supported soundcard
If he had some analog speakers a TiHD would be nice, but it won't help speakers much.

 

He doesn't have a sound card. He's using onboard audio right now.

 

He has the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system. So, I'd say that he would definitely appreciate the Titanium HD. I have Altec Lansing's VS4121s which Altec Lansing considers to be "Value Computer Speakers", and yet I'm appreciating this card quite a bit. My previous card is the XtremeGamer. So, if I can appreciate the upgrade with a "crappy" speaker system like what I have, then certainly he would appreciate it with a much better system like the ProMedia 2.1. I heard this system in person at a friend's house; he had onboard audio in a cheap pre-built and I still wish my system sounded that good. I got a hell of a lot closer to it though with the Titanium HD.


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Why do you have cheap-ish sound with such an expensive rig rolleyes.gif


Try wiggling it down to $20, don't take it for over $25 if you want it. I got my used Xonar STX for ~$100 off Amazon, which is a far superior, newer, and better supported soundcard

If he had some analog speakers a TiHD would be nice, but it won't help speakers much.

He doesn't have a sound card. He's using onboard audio right now.

He has the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 system. So, I'd say that he would definitely appreciate the Titanium HD. I have Altec Lansing's VS4121s which Altec Lansing considers to be "Value Computer Speakers", and yet I'm appreciating this card quite a bit. My previous card is the XtremeGamer. So, if I can appreciate the upgrade with a "crappy" speaker system like what I have, then certainly he would appreciate it with a much better system like the ProMedia 2.1.

There's nothing wrong with either speakers or a TiHD, but good soundcards are essentially a multi-channel DAC + headphone amp with some DSPs rolled into a high-value package. (EDIT: Old EAX games aside), the DAC is the only part that benefits the speakers, so you mind as well save money and buy a dedicated external DAC like a Schiit Modi.

http://schiit.com/products/modi
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There's nothing wrong with either speakers or a TiHD, but good soundcards are essentially a multi-channel DAC + headphone amp with some DSPs rolled into a high-value package. (EDIT: Old EAX games aside), the DAC is the only part that benefits the speakers, so you mind as well save money and buy a dedicated external DAC like a Schiit Modi.

http://schiit.com/products/modi

 

Don't you mean that you might as well? :)

 

Anyway, again, I was providing the most simplistic solution - at least physically speaking. Plus, the Creative Console Launcher has a Graphic EQ and lots of other audio enhancements (not to mention the 3 different operating modes: Entertainment, Audio Creation, and Game). What do you get with the Modi? I mean, you're going to need all of that if you're going to be plugging computer speakers directly into it.


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Woah, calm down everyone. Like I said, I was only willing to spend the money because its local. If anything, I will get an amp and proper headset before I get a sound card due to that making more sense.
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Woah, calm down everyone. Like I said, I was only willing to spend the money because its local. If anything, I will get an amp and proper headset before I get a sound card due to that making more sense.

 

I'm just curious, I'm not trying to make a point here: would you like to have features in Windows like a Graphic EQ and other nice audio enhancements? Would you also like for different operating modes, like how Creative has Entertainment Mode, Audio Creation Mode, or Game Mode? Or, would something like the Modi be more than enough? I mean, if you connect the ProMedia 2.1s directly to something like the Modi, then you'll have one problem: all general audio outside of any media players that you use (like Winamp or something) will be flat. You will have no control over the the Graphic EQ. You might have control over treble and bass, but you won't be able to adjust 2k, 4k, and 8k - the most important ones. 16k is really only useful for younger people like teenagers because they can still hear that frequency. lol

 

Sure, maybe turning the treble up in the Windows audio control panel might help, but I don't know by how much.

 

I'm just asking because even though you might get superior audio quality in media players, general audio (including YouTube) will be flat and may end up sounding somewhat muffled. This is why I like good sound cards like the Sound Blaster cards: the Creative Console Launcher has everything that I could ever want for audio enhancements, including that all-important (at least to me) Graphic Equalizer. The only hardware I need is the sound card. With something like the Modi, I bet that I would also end up wanting to buy an external Graphic Equalizer.


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I'm just curious, I'm not trying to make a point here: would you like to have features in Windows like a Graphic EQ and other nice audio enhancements? Would you also like for different operating modes, like how Creative has Entertainment Mode, Audio Creation Mode, or Game Mode? Or, would something like the Modi be more than enough? I mean, if you connect the ProMedia 2.1s directly to something like the Modi, then you'll have one problem: all general audio outside of any media players that you use (like Winamp or something) will be flat. You will have no control over the the Graphic EQ. You might have control over treble and bass, but you won't be able to adjust 2k, 4k, and 8k - the most important ones. 16k is really only useful for younger people like teenagers because they can still hear that frequency. lol

Sure, maybe turning the treble up in the Windows audio control panel might help, but I don't know by how much.

I'm just asking because even though you might get superior audio quality in media players, general audio (including YouTube) will be flat and may end up sounding somewhat muffled. This is why I like good sound cards like the Sound Blaster cards: the Creative Console Launcher has everything that I could ever want for audio enhancements, including that all-important (at least to me) Graphic Equalizer. The only hardware I need is the sound card. With something like the Modi, I bet that I would also end up wanting to buy an external Graphic Equalizer.
Oh I wouldn't be getting Modi. Doesn't interest me in the slightest. I mostly play games and such, though I do listen to music alot, having flat audio would be bad. Plus, if I'm going to get a higher end sound solution, I'm getting a sound card, amp and higher end headphones. Then eventually, separates and a nice big subwoofer. Maybe like a 300RMS one meant for car audio just for BASS! lol.
ATM though, I can't really afford to get all that, so I'm not gunna worry about it. Thanks for the suggestions though!
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Oh I wouldn't be getting Modi. Doesn't interest me in the slightest. I mostly play games and such, though I do listen to music alot, having flat audio would be bad. Plus, if I'm going to get a higher end sound solution, I'm getting a sound card, amp and higher end headphones. Then eventually, separates and a nice big subwoofer. Maybe like a 300RMS one meant for car audio just for BASS! lol.
ATM though, I can't really afford to get all that, so I'm not gunna worry about it. Thanks for the suggestions though!

 

Oh, I forgot about gaming. Yeah, the gaming audio would be flat too (outside of adjusting the treble in Windows). Without an external Graphic EQ, everything except for music and movies would be flat because most media players have their own built-in Graphic Equalizer that you can use and customize.

 

With your ProMedia 2.1s, a good sound card would improve the quality of your low end by a good amount. Even my lowly and "low-quality" XtremeGamer would. It most certainly did for me, and I upgraded to it from the Audigy 2 ZS. So, consider that for a moment. :)

 

The Titanium HD is a good all-around audiophile-grade sound card for speakers and headphones, for gaming, music and movies (not in that order; but in any order that's important to you).

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