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I want whatever it is thay you're on. The section you quoted in no way explains that we have enough He...It is a well known fact that we are using more He than is present and produceable. It is renewable, sure but not renewable enough to cover how much of it we use every year.

He(He get it tongue.gif) is on ignorance. His previous posts were a little silly.

Is there any reason why they don't make 5.25 HDDs? Would that not get round the platter problem?
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Well Duckie, perhaps you should read your own links. Two of those articles were written before they reversed the decision, therefore they are moot. The one that you linked that is actually up to date (the only relevant one), if you were to read it, explains the issue is being addressed.
....put that in your balloon and inhale it. thumb.gif

Do you even comprehend what you're quoting? All that states is that in the short term, He prices will be stabilized and there is increased production in the future.

This is only mitigation and not a solution to the reality that He consumption continues and will continue to outstrip production for the foreseeable future. I have already stated this TWICE!

Maybe you should educate yourself on topics a bit more before attempting to debate them.....
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Is there any reason why they don't make 5.25 HDDs? Would that not get round the platter problem?

5.25" use to be a HDD form factor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Form_factors
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5.25 inch
5.75 in × 3.25 in × 8 in (146.1 mm × 82.55 mm × 203 mm). This smaller form factor, first used in an HDD by Seagate in 1980,[78] was the same size as full-height 5 1⁄4-inch-diameter (130 mm) FDD, 3.25-inches high. This is twice as high as "half height"; i.e., 1.63 in (41.4 mm). Most desktop models of drives for optical 120 mm disks (DVD, CD) use the half height 5¼" dimension, but it fell out of fashion for HDDs. The format was standardized as EIA-741 and co-published as SFF-8501 for disk drives, with other SFF-85xx series standards covering related 5.25 inch devices (optical drives, etc.)[79] The Quantum Bigfoot HDD was the last to use it in the late 1990s, with "low-profile" (≈25 mm) and "ultra-low-profile" (≈20 mm) high versions.

There are a few reasons that the trend for HDDs is smaller platters:
1) larger and more platters require much more powerful motors. This makes the necessary precision control harder/more expensive. This also increases power consumption.
2) increased storage per HDD can be a bad thing since HDDs have a relatively high failure rate in respect to all other computer components (except PSUs). Recovery/redundancy is easier with 10x2TB in RAID6 rather than 4x10TB in RAID6.
3) Large platters mean less consistent performance since the angular speeds vary more from outer to inner disk area.
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There is many times the helium in a party balloon than in a HDD. If we're going to conserve helium, it's those wasteful things that must go first.
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Hallelujah! Someone with brains wink.gif

There is a near-term crunch that is quickly being resolved. Show us some proof that there is long term shortage looming and we will debate it.

Of course, there are long-term shortages of everything, oil, minerals, etc. As we need more we ramp up more production. You can say what you will, but the facts don't agree with you.

I see no one in the streets running around blathering incoherently about a global helium crisis! I only see that in this thread rolleyes.gif

Gosh guys, am I the only one that notices the obvious hilarity of my previous posts, such as the noble gas comments? You guys are a rough crowd and wouldn't notice humor if it slapped you in the face tongue.gif
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Not a big deal for balloon lovers. We will just have to use Hydrogen for them instead. More BANG for your buck anyways. biggrin.gif
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Actually, I don't see why they couldn't use hydrogen in HDDs. It's cheaper and lighter than helium, and the amounts that would be used are so small - charging a dead lead-acid battery may produce more. PLUS, you need OXYGEN mixed with hydrogen to make it explosive. If it's pure hydrogen sealed inside a HDD, it can't blow up. Simple physics.

But people are afraid of hydrogen.
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Of course there might be some hazards associated with manufacturing, and that is probably one of the key aspects that keep that from happening.
Edited by Computurd - 4/7/14 at 11:06am
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Farts are methane, not hydrogen wink.gif
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...well, there's always hydrogen, there's plenty of it (...other than the Hindenburg thing might get in the way)
I can't think of anything flammable at birthday parties, this plan can't go wrong.

Though seriously I have to wonder why they don't either raise the price of helium by a lot, or just outright prohibit sale for balloon-type things.
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