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Where are those 10TB HDD's they unveiled last year? I don't believe a word of 'development' bla bla bla.
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Hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane are all produced in the gut and contribute 74% of the volume of flatus in normal subjects

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence


lets not go too far down that road though, someone will come in and lecture us that the world is running out of flatulence! It could get stinky real fast wink.gif
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Though seriously I have to wonder why they don't either raise the price of helium by a lot, or just outright prohibit sale for balloon-type things.

Exactly. Thank you kind sir for bringing up a wonderfully relevant point. Whilst the sky may be falling and people are rioting in major cities all around the world because of the helium crisis, children still manage to have enough for inhaling.

Perhaps the lack of rationing and concentration camps for helium abusers would be a good sign that the industry isnt that bad?
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He(He get it tongue.gif) is on ignorance. His previous posts were a little silly.

Is there any reason why they don't make 5.25 HDDs? Would that not get round the platter problem?

I've got a UDP joke for you, but I'm not sure you'd get it.
 
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5.25" use to be a HDD form factor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Form_factors
There are a few reasons that the trend for HDDs is smaller platters:
1) larger and more platters require much more powerful motors. This makes the necessary precision control harder/more expensive. This also increases power consumption.
2) increased storage per HDD can be a bad thing since HDDs have a relatively high failure rate in respect to all other computer components (except PSUs). Recovery/redundancy is easier with 10x2TB in RAID6 rather than 4x10TB in RAID6.
3) Large platters mean less consistent performance since the angular speeds vary more from outer to inner disk area.

Referencing one of the quotes in your post, the Quantum Bigfoot was the first HDD I ever owned in my first PC my grandparents bought me way back when lol. They got mad when i took the PC apart to tinker, but I sure learned a lot that way biggrin.gif
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I've got a UDP joke for you, but I'm not sure you'd get it.

I’m going to keep telling you this TCP joke until you get it.
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I've got a UDP joke for you, but I'm not sure you'd get it.

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I’m going to keep telling you this TCP joke until you get it.

*Shakes hands with both of you*
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Referencing one of the quotes in your post, the Quantum Bigfoot was the first HDD I ever owned in my first PC my grandparents bought me way back when lol. They got mad when i took the PC apart to tinker, but I sure learned a lot that way biggrin.gif

I took apart a 3.5" HDD back in the day, it was pretty cool, compared to todays disks...no comparison lol
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5.25" use to be a HDD form factor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Form_factors
There are a few reasons that the trend for HDDs is smaller platters:
1) larger and more platters require much more powerful motors. This makes the necessary precision control harder/more expensive. This also increases power consumption.
2) increased storage per HDD can be a bad thing since HDDs have a relatively high failure rate in respect to all other computer components (except PSUs). Recovery/redundancy is easier with 10x2TB in RAID6 rather than 4x10TB in RAID6.
3) Large platters mean less consistent performance since the angular speeds vary more from outer to inner disk area.

1 and 3 are addressed by helium architecture.
2 is addressed at the software layer, ie RAID code, type of RAID, or other solutions (object storage, ZFS)
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1 and 3 are addressed by helium architecture.
2 is addressed at the software layer, ie RAID code, type of RAID, or other solutions (object storage, ZFS)

No.

1) Helium do help to reduce the weight by allowing lighter platters. However, the physics are still the same.... larger platters means increased interia which means more powerful motors.
2) Do you know how long a 4x10TB RAID or ZFS rebuild would take? Days.... maybe even a week if the system is in use. If you have additional failures during the rebuild.... trouble. Plus there are performance degradation during this time.
3) How would helium help physically change the fact that angular velocity increases on the outer edge of a platter?
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