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So I am at this stage of delidding azd am going to replace the TIM with some Noctua stuff. How to get it off without bringing total destruction of CPU upon myself? I have heard 99% isopropyl, but what tools should I use?
This is where I'm at, gonna use double sided tape to stick IHS back on afterwards
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The alcohol essentially dissolves the TIM so you don't need any "tools". Some will recommend lint free paper or a coffee filter but personally I even used plain old toilet paper every now and again and then just blow off the few pieces of lint that end up on the die surface.

As for sticking back the IHS using double sided tape, well to me that just sounds like a very bad idea as you have no real control over the thickness and so you might end up with a gap between the chip and the IHS. If you ask me auto grade gasket sealant silicone would be much better suited.
    
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OK so applying isopropyl directly to the die won't screw me up at all, and as for double sided tape its thinner than gasket maker so I'm half confident that it should be fine at least for now (a Japanese website went and did it and they didn't have any problems, and we know the Japanese are never wong XD) And then there's the fact I don't have any gasket maker...

EDIT- Screw it, I realized that the dremel that I borrowed from my dad is missing a crap load of tips (were talking 95% of the kit is gone) so I gotta go pick up a buffing kit to get the black stuff off. I'm gonna pick up some gasket maker while I'm at the hardware store as well
Edited by blackmagic12345 - 3/27/14 at 12:16am
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OK so applying isopropyl directly to the die won't screw me up at all, and as for double sided tape its thinner than gasket maker
How can double-stick tape be thinner when gasket maker is a liquid and can be made as thin as you want by simply squeezing enough? I once looked up the thermal specs for ordinary silicone rubber sealant and thermal tape, and thermal tape was rated the same or better at identical thicknesses. Yet when I replaced the tape on some heatsinks with silicone sealant, the temperature difference between each chip and heatsink would drop 1-2 Celcius, meaning the sealant had to be thinner.

The biggest risk of cleaning thermal paste from a die is probably zapping it with static electricity. Otherwise it's well protected by the layer of glass coating.
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How can double-stick tape be thinner when gasket maker is a liquid and can be made as thin as you want by simply squeezing enough? I once looked up the thermal specs for ordinary silicone rubber sealant and thermal tape, and thermal tape was rated the same or better at identical thicknesses. Yet when I replaced the tape on some heatsinks with silicone sealant, the temperature difference between each chip and heatsink would drop 1-2 Celcius, meaning the sealant had to be thinner.

The biggest risk of cleaning thermal paste from a die is probably zapping it with static electricity. Otherwise it's well protected by the layer of glass coating.
yeah I just edited my post like 30 seconds ago the double sided tape is no go picking up gasket maker tomorrow
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