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This will be my first full build. I have swapped out ram and hard drives in the past. But I am really want to build a gaming rig.

I want to be able to play all the newest games with good framerate at a good resolution. Would I get better framerate at 1440 or 1080?
Its going to be in an open area, so i dont know how important liquid cooling is, but I would like it to run at its best without burning up.

I would like to not have to upgrade it for awhile. So when 4k gaming becomes more mainstream i can transition over with minimal cost.

I would like to be able to run most games at max or as close to possible, and I would like dual monitors.

My budget is between 2500 - 3000 including the monitors.


thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Lewshus75 View Post

This will be my first full build. I have swapped out ram and hard drives in the past. But I am really want to build a gaming rig.

I want to be able to play all the newest games with good framerate at a good resolution. Would I get better framerate at 1440 or 1080?

 

That depends mostly on the video card, and secondly on the CPU.

 

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Its going to be in an open area, so i dont know how important liquid cooling is, but I would like it to run at its best without burning up.

 

Liquid cooling is only worth it if you are going to be overclocking. The same is true for ANY aftermarket cooling: if you're going to overclock, then buy it. If not, then stay with the stock cooling.

 

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I would like to not have to upgrade it for awhile. So when 4k gaming becomes more mainstream i can transition over with minimal cost.

I would like to be able to run most games at max or as close to possible, and I would like dual monitors.

My budget is between 2500 - 3000 including the monitors.


thanks in advance.

 

Will you also want to buy a keyboard, mouse, speakers and a sound card?

 

I can help the most with selecting the PSU (Power Supply Unit, or "power supply" and "PSU" for short).

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post #3 of 43
framerate at 1440 or 1080?

single card = 1080

sli/cf = 1440

and before everybody jumps on me - ouch! rolleyes.gif

I am talking with all the bells and whistles not minus AA and AF and 0 mssa thumb.gif

Everybody has their idea of what playable fps they can put up with and high settings instead of ultra!

Well i like ultra and nothing less, graphics have moved on and therefore want to exploit it!

Yes i have a hd6450 - temp measure only had the 7970 , now waiting on new card biggrin.gif

and 2500 - 3000 what ? Dollars £ or Thai Baht biggrin.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 3/27/14 at 1:54am
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I don't know anything about monitors, but I'm pretty confident you'll be able to get what you want on budget, and I'll try and help you get your moneys worth.

Twocables, does SLI 780s on a(Potentially) overclocked i7-4770K require a solid 750w or a 850w PSU?

*edit* I also assume $1000 is enough for a monitor at 1440p(I assume they're cheaper then that, but eh better to undershoot then overshoot)
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I don't know anything about monitors, but I'm pretty confident you'll be able to get what you want on budget, and I'll try and help you get your moneys worth.

Twocables, does SLI 780s on a(Potentially) overclocked i7-4770K require a solid 750w or a 850w PSU?

*edit* I also assume $1000 is enough for a monitor at 1440p(I assume they're cheaper then that, but eh better to undershoot then overshoot)

 

650W at minimum, if it's a good one, if the 4770K is heavily overclocked.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_sli_review,4.html

 

With two GTX 780s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 544W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 150W for a heavily-overclocked 4770K. So, this means that if you were to somehow get the 4770K to like 5 GHz and you were to somehow get it to be under full load at the same time as both of the GTX 780s (not easy unless you're using like Furmark and Intel Burn Test at their highest settings - even then, I don't know if you could do it), then that would make the PSU pull about 694W from the wall. Let's round that up to 700W. This means that if the PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 700W from the wall outlet, then the computer is pulling about 630W from the PSU. However, the gaming power draw would never exceed 600W. So, this is why a good quality-made 650W PSU would be the minimum if the 4770K is heavily overclocked.

 

So, if the 4770K is only overclocked to like 4.5 GHz, then a good 650W PSU would still be the minimum, but the gaming power consumption would likely stay below ~575W, possibly 550.

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post #6 of 43
Alright, hopefully I didn't forget anything, and hopefully this is pretty good for the budget.

I also don't know a better case with documented radiator support >.>, so that can be changed. I also picked the "Best rated" 1440p monitor on newegg, no idea if it is actually any good.



Case($77 with promo code EMCPGHW35) - Rosewill ARMOR-EVO Gaming E-ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147175

HDD($80 with promo code SPRGEAR10) - WD BLACK SERIES WD1003FZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625

PSU($135 with promo code SPRGCLR61) - Seasonic SS-660XP2 ATX 12V/EPS 12V, 660W, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151121

Cooler($110) - CORSAIR Hydro Series H110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181035

SSD($260) - SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE500BW 2.5" 500GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147249

2x GPU+RAM($1134) - GIGABYTE REV2.0 GeForce GTX 780 + G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1587747

CPU+Motherboard($505) - Intel Core i7-4770K + MSI Z87 MPOWER LGA 1150 Intel Z87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1572069

Monitor($349) - 27" QNIX QX2710 2560x1440 QHD PLS Matte Panel Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0X59885

Total Price - $2685 with express shipping on the monitor, rebates not included.

You can save $25 using the VMEMADNESS promo code, and using V.me payment method.

Hopefully that's pretty solid.
Edited by Alanim - 3/27/14 at 3:41am
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post #7 of 43

You can also save another $39.02 by getting the 650W SeaSonic M12II instead:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151106

 

Or, get the 750W version for $109.99 shipped:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00607JN1E

 

Yes, these aren't super high-end PSUs, but they're still quite good - more than good enough for a build like this.

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You can also save another $39.02 by getting the 650W SeaSonic M12II instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151106

Or, get the 750W version for $109.99 shipped:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00607JN1E

Yes, these aren't super high-end PSUs, but they're still quite good - more than good enough for a build like this.

He could also get the SeaSonic SSR-650RM for $105, which looks like it'd be the middle ground between those PSUs, right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118
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He could also get the SeaSonic SSR-650RM for $105, which looks like it'd be the middle ground between those PSUs, right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118

 

Yeah, the SeaSonic G Series is a good series of PSUs. The 650W model also has 12 more watts of 12V power, so there's that too.

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post #10 of 43
I dont get why you would choose a 70 dollar case in such a build? Since you are running two gpus and possible a overclocked cpu you will need a bigger and better case. I would also get a psu with at least 750w to be on the safe side. Choosing parts that you can use in the future is a good choice when making such a build. The motherboard is totally overkill unless he will overclock using water, a motherboard for max 150 dollars will work fine even for OC to 4.5Ghz. 8gb ram just doesnt cut in if you are making a build like this, 16gb I would take. I dont know about having one gtx 780 vs two for 1440, but as long as the screen is 60hz you dont need more then 60 fps anyways. For 2500-3000 dollars, I would take this. No screen included because I dont know anything abour screens.

I would take something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236404

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125488 (x2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151132

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231659

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128681

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147249

Around 2400 dollars.
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