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Y'know what, mdocod? You can just go somewhere... I'm sick of this game.




Though Mdocod does have a point. Why bother taking out the single cable that wouldn't be in use with a dual GPU setup. If it was single, then yeah modular all the way, but he does have a point. Why spend more when you don't need to in any way.
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Though Mdocod does have a point. Why bother taking out the single cable that wouldn't be in use with a dual GPU setup. If it was single, then yeah modular all the way, but he does have a point. Why spend more when you don't need to in any way.

 

It's not a good idea to encourage him. I don't care about his point right now. All I care about is making it clear that I'm sick of his game. It has been going on for months now.

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It's not a good idea to encourage him. I don't care about his point right now. All I care about is making it clear that I'm sick of his game. It has been going on for months now.
What where he posts in every thread you post in? Yeah I had a guy like that a while ago. Kept saying all my builds were wrong because ITS NAUWT A GUUD BRAND NAEM! Just dont worry about it. But I do have to say that doc knows what he's talking about, though @mdocod shouldn't be telling you to change your post because he's got a point. You make the point, and leave it at that, OP should be able to see everyone's views and opinions.

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Y'know what, mdocod? You can just go somewhere... I'm sick of this game.

It's not a game. I've made a very reasonable request. I made a quick edit to my original build suggestion to pull it back into budget, please consider editing your unnecessary quote of the entire build to reflect that change.

Quit trying to accuse me of some kind of foul play here. YOU QUOTED ME. I never even addressed you, I said absolutely nothing to you and you're convinced I'm out to get you no matter what. The only "game" that is going on here is in YOUR HEAD. I didn't give a flying steaming heap of monkey dung about what you had said in this thread prior to my build recommendation.
     
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First I want to thank everyone for the replies and suggestions. Second, I realize how little I really know about computers.

I have some questions.

Is it preferred to have 2 monitors over 1? Like should I get 2 1080p monitors or 1 1440 monitor? And is the refresh rate more important than the resolution?

Is a 2 tb hard drive big enough to hold the newest games. I know some of the installs can be pretty big, and is the ssd drive simply for the OS?

Is overclocking really necessary? Is it very hard to do?
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First I want to thank everyone for the replies and suggestions. Second, I realize how little I really know about computers.

I have some questions.

Is it preferred to have 2 monitors over 1? Like should I get 2 1080p monitors or 1 1440 monitor? And is the refresh rate more important than the resolution?

Is a 2 tb hard drive big enough to hold the newest games. I know some of the installs can be pretty big, and is the ssd drive simply for the OS?

Is overclocking really necessary? Is it very hard to do?

I saw you were gonna pay newegg $349 for a qnix? You can definitely get one cheaper than that on ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-QNIX-QX2710-LED-Evolution-2-27-Samsung-PLS-WQHD-Monitor-Tempered-Glass-/121089977041?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item1c31866ad1

$289 from a reputable seller.

Overclocking is easy
1tb will be plenty for a ton of games.
I would get one monitor, bezels suck.
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First I want to thank everyone for the replies and suggestions. Second, I realize how little I really know about computers.

I have some questions.

Is it preferred to have 2 monitors over 1? Like should I get 2 1080p monitors or 1 1440 monitor? And is the refresh rate more important than the resolution?

I love multiple monitors for productivity purposes. I feel that it allows me to "compartmentalize" various piece of a project and move focus from one thing to another more easily than when it is all on the same monitor. YMMV. If you work with documents/legal/spreadsheets or any sort of page layout on a computer it can be useful to have a ~20" 1080P widescreen monitor turned up on end as it is a better "fit" to the natural shape of the documents. (much larger than this and it is too tall to have in your field of view without a kinked neck).

On the other hand, some people might prefer a single large high resolution monitor (1440P - 4K, usually ~27-30")

Some people implement 3-6+ cheap 1080P monitors for productivity or gaming purposes. Just be aware that depending on the GPU implementation, there can be limitations in how these are configured.

I think that for your budget, it makes sense to do either 1 x 4K monitor like the one I linked to above (a pre-order for ~$700), or 2 x QD monitors (that's 1440P and 1600P), or 3+ 1080P monitors. For gaming it usually makes sense to be on an odd number of displays if you want the game to span them all, so that your center of vision isn't obstructed by the borders of a pair of screens. (or, if it's an even number of screens, one of them is usually configured as a separate extended desktop).

Some people build a $3000 gaming machine and just hook it to their TV, -also a valid option-, especially if you have a nice TV.


Higher refresh rates and lower response times are better for fast motion. Depending on the types of games you want to play and how competitive you want to be in them, these can be important factors. Casual gamers are typically happy with any ordinary 60hz 5-10ms panel. Extremely competitive gamers pull nice old CRTs out of the junk bins and have them repaired because they offer better refresh/response characteristics than many LCDs (120hz+, effectively 0 response time). The 4K sammy panel I linked to in the build recommendation above is a 60hz 1ms, which by most standards, should be fine for gaming (most people shoot for 60FPS for smooth gameplay, so a 60hz panel with a respectable response time will look great)


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Is a 2 tb hard drive big enough to hold the newest games. I know some of the installs can be pretty big, and is the ssd drive simply for the OS?

Windows will take about 30-40GB. The remainder of the SSD is usually used for installing all of the games and apps that you will use most often. Games range in size from ~5-50GB these days. Some people are able to fit all of their games on a moderate size SSD, other people need several TB, though many people who own many games will only keep a handful installed at any given time just to maintain a cleaner system that fits all software on the SSD. Then the mechanical drive is just used for media and backup. I'd say most people are only able to "fixate" on a few games at a time anyway.
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Is overclocking really necessary? Is it very hard to do?

Once you have done it, you'll probably say it is easy. Like learning anything technical, it's just a matter of wading through the details until all the pieces of the puzzle start to connect. Research, read, research, read, take notes, etc.

It's not necessary, but can be rewarding.
     
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Overclocking is easy if you have lots of people helping you who know what they're doing. Fortunately, you're on Overclock.net. ;)

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First I want to thank everyone for the replies and suggestions. Second, I realize how little I really know about computers.

I have some questions.

Is it preferred to have 2 monitors over 1? Like should I get 2 1080p monitors or 1 1440 monitor? And is the refresh rate more important than the resolution?

Is a 2 tb hard drive big enough to hold the newest games. I know some of the installs can be pretty big, and is the ssd drive simply for the OS?

Is overclocking really necessary? Is it very hard to do?
Ok here are some simple answers.

I personally prefer multiple monitors over 1. But in your case, what I would do is get a single 1440p monitor to start, then get yourself a cheap 1080p monitor on the side later on. Or, if you went with the build I proposed earlier, get a 1080p monitor right now. Then, since you would have a 780ti, you could get your 1440p later on and see the huge difference in graphics. No refresh rate isnt more important then resolution, though if you can get both thats great. Some people will disagree with me on this, but you can't run every game over 60 FPS on max settings, making those extra 60+hz you paid for useless (in regards to a 120hz monitor). (BTW, 1HZ = 1FPS. 60hz monitor can display up to 60FPS)

Oh god yes 2TB is large enough. Lets just say I have a 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD, and I have like 5 games installed on it, the main ones I play, and I still have like 120GB left. Basically, what you do with an SSD is the following. Put your OS on it, then install the games you play all the time. Then install all the random BS games you bough because Steam sales on the HDD. That way you keep your SSD nice and clean. But yes, the SSD is for the OS and whatever games you want on it. HDD is extra storage.

Overclocking isnt necessary, but it is basically free performance (minus the cost of a cooler). No, its very easy to do, especially since there are a butt-load of tutorials here on the forum explaining step by step how to do it.
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