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What I'm saying is that most of the plastics considered "bullet proof" generally won't stop common rifle rounds or high powered pistol cartridges. They're technically only bullet resistant.

At human skull thickness, they won't stop any bullet except possibly .22 (or smaller) fired from a very short barrel.

Tried too hard for a bad joke - sorry axesmiley.png

As much as material advancement goes, by the time will have something that would be considered "bullet proof" by today's standards and munitions @ 6~7mm or ~1/4" (human skull thickness @ average for an adult), we will have bullets that will "undo" that claim, or bullets that can kill the target on impact without the need to penetrate the skull (or whatever "adamantium-like" substance it would be replaced with).

Skulls vs bullets are like safes vs expert locksmiths: it is inevitable. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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Tried too hard for a bad joke - sorry axesmiley.png

As much as material advancement goes, by the time will have something that would be considered "bullet proof" by today's standards and munitions @ 6~7mm or ~1/4" (human skull thickness @ average for an adult), we will have bullets that will "undo" that claim, or bullets that can kill the target on impact without the need to penetrate the skull (or whatever "adamantium-like" substance it would be replaced with).

Skulls vs bullets are like safes vs expert locksmiths: it is inevitable. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Bullet proof skull plating... fine... fire current tech .50 (or larger man-portable high caliber rifle) and though the bullet may not penetrate, i'll just keep on moving and bring your head along for the ride biggrin.gif

For every safety, there is a way to break it.
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Hellraiser anyone?
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Well, I don't know...
Surely, a .50 BMG rifle round @ above 12,000 lb-ft of pressure would kill you even without penetrating. Probably much less powerful round would too.
Would probably easily have your body lose its balance and drop. But ripping your head off? Hard to say, I don't think so.

It is a TV "trope" that shotguns and powerful rounds send bodies flying around: if the shooter can fire the weapon hand-held and not go flying backwards, the target of the same size wont.

So, back to the neck - even if it would break your neck bones, don't know if it could pull flesh and everything apart...

OP - that's a great high jacking, as if cutting your skull in 2 and replacing it with 3D printed plastic is not great for the appetite already.
Chianti anyone? (or should it be Amarone?)
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Hellraiser anyone?

more like mop top hair shop imo
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Well, I don't know...
Surely, a .50 BMG rifle round @ above 12,000 lb-ft of pressure would kill you even without penetrating. Probably much less powerful round would too.
Would probably easily have your body lose its balance and drop. But ripping your head off? Hard to say, I don't think so.

It is a TV "trope" that shotguns and powerful rounds send bodies flying around: if the shooter can fire the weapon hand-held and not go flying backwards, the target of the same size wont.

So, back to the neck - even if it would break your neck bones, don't know if it could pull flesh and everything apart...

OP - that's a great high jacking, as if cutting your skull in 2 and replacing it with 3D printed plastic is not great for the appetite already.
Chianti anyone? (or should it be Amarone?)

but what if the plastic was thicker? and the head, about the same size of MegaMind ? would that stop a bullet?
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i was thinking a member of the Angel gang lol

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yay for science!

glad she's doing ok
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Well, I don't know...
Surely, a .50 BMG rifle round @ above 12,000 lb-ft of pressure would kill you even without penetrating. Probably much less powerful round would too.
Would probably easily have your body lose its balance and drop. But ripping your head off? Hard to say, I don't think so.

It is a TV "trope" that shotguns and powerful rounds send bodies flying around: if the shooter can fire the weapon hand-held and not go flying backwards, the target of the same size wont.

So, back to the neck - even if it would break your neck bones, don't know if it could pull flesh and everything apart...

OP - that's a great high jacking, as if cutting your skull in 2 and replacing it with 3D printed plastic is not great for the appetite already.
Chianti anyone? (or should it be Amarone?)

I was more or less trying to be a little funny, but when I was in Basic Training I was told a story by one of my Drill Sergeants who was a sniper. According to him, and other sources agreeing after i've told the story, he fired his .50 Barrett and just barely hit an insurgents left arm near the shoulder (aiming for center of mass, missed wind calculation) and it took his arm off. I would think it is in the realm of possibility it could do that to your head, but again, not 100% sure. Just conjecture smile.gif
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Tho it is far from funny that far that we've pushed it (too descriptive), yes, should you hit the joint or even close to it, limbs should fly off.
But in your example and similar situations, the round landed in a relatively soft-spot, creating a mini "explosion" and dispersing most of its energy inside the tissues and bones.
Similarly if you would hit the neck, the head could fly off.

But I don't know if such a round hitting an imaginary "adamantium skull", dinging off it without penetration, would be able to transfer enough of the energy, and whether this energy is indeed enough to literarily rip the neck's assembly off muscle/joints etc completely off the body without the projectile directly compromising their integrity beforehand. Think our head is mounted pretty well.

It is certainly possible if the impact would be at an angle that would not just ding it off but allow for the projectile to "crash" into the surface delivering all the energy, but I don't know the energy/pressure that could decapitate us, so I cannot estimate the kind of round could do it like that.
We are already talking the most powerful "practical" rounds for remotely "hand-held" weapons, so...maybe?

I am thinking of it as "earthquake" vs. "wrecking ball" or controlled demolition: point impact with the latter 2 disperses a joke of energy, yet strategically placed it can compromise the integrity of key points bring down buildings that could resist collapsing vs earthquakes that deliver "megatons" of energy by comparison.

Maybe someone from the medical sector has studied our macabre subject? rolleyes.gif
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