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Originally Posted by Ghoxt View Post

Whats interesting is the TV price drops already occurring. I think it will not be 3 years. The development cycles are alot faster now.

That said the 4K Movie/TV & content market is not so clear. That's the only thing I see stalling this and that's from a media standpoint not the hardware. There's Sony and who else?

Yeah, if there's no reason for normal people to buy 4K TVs, the price won't drop fast.

It will still come down eventually. I imagine that factories will in any case stop producing 1080p panels and swap everything over to 4K panels over time. It will just take longer if consumers will still continue buying 1080p.

But the thread was intended to be about the graphics card performance you need. tongue.gif
post #62 of 88
4K has a bit to go before it will even be close to a norm or mainstream. The monitor cost is just the start, you need a fairly powerful card to achieve decent frame rates so the cost of entry is pretty high.

Another factor to consider is that a lot of people are finally figuring out why 4K rocks, it is not the amount of pixels is has but rather the pixel density. With this in mind I think we could see monitor makers make a move toward denser displays that would mean lower cost and better quality.

Imagine for a second a 24" monitor with a 1440 resolution, the image quality would be AMAZING. Look at 22" monitors with 1080, they look better than 24" monitors with the same resolution.

Using this approach the monitor costs would not go up overly much and the current crop of video cards would give amazing game play. Lower monitor cost, great game play and as good of image quality thanks to the super packed pixel density.
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But the thread was intended to be about the graphics card performance you need. tongue.gif

From this perspective I think history can give us an answer. We have seen some pretty solid ju8mps at the high end when it comes of new cards. Right now the high end cards can do 4K but the frame rates a bit lower than we would like. Next generation the high end will likely be able to push the 60 FPS range we are hoping for in 4K.
Edited by Mopar63 - 3/28/14 at 9:54am
post #63 of 88
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Imagine for a second [...]

The tablets and phones already have great pixel densities. The fonts look so great on their screens. Text on the desktop looks seriously terrible in comparison. frown.gif

The sharp text even works on the days when I use my contact lenses instead of glasses. My eyesight is quite a bit blurry like that but it strangely seems like the tablet screen's resolution helps with reading.
post #64 of 88
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But the thread was intended to be about the graphics card performance you need. tongue.gif

I guess what I edited out was the need for all planets to be aligned to make it work for the masses. We've seen hardware fly off the shelves historically and become mainstream when a certain industry starting making content for it. Pron..for example.

If 4K hardware was only good for gaming then no need to bring up other media, but I do believe in this case that it will crawl along slowly until the Big media players push this forward. I think i stayed on topic this time smile.gif
post #65 of 88
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the eye and brain cannot differentiate between 60 and 120. The height of perception is around 30. This means there are 30 electrical and chemical signals sent from the eye to the back of the brain every second. The only reason why 60 looks smoother is because they sort of sync up better.

I am not a know it all, but I do have a degree in psychology and we studied perception and sensation. Just a little fun FYI for everyone.

Right, gamers just magically prefer 120hz in a blind test http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4592/vast-majority-of-gamers-prefers-120-hz-monitors

Motion clarity has no cap in the human eye. The only time 120fps is not needed is on a monitor not capable of displaying 120hz.
 
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Is this thread for real?
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Right, gamers just magically prefer 120hz in a blind test http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4592/vast-majority-of-gamers-prefers-120-hz-monitors

Motion clarity has no cap in the human eye. The only time 120fps is not needed is on a monitor not capable of displaying 120hz.

And even then 120FPS can still help on a 60Hz monitor to make the game feel smoother.
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And even then 120FPS can still help on a 60Hz monitor to make the game feel smoother.
No, because then you'd get tearing.
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4k gaming won't be mainstream until 4k tv's become mainstream. Reason is simple, as 4k matures the tech will be more affordable,making it worth amd/nvidia's time. They don't care to bring out that bad boy gpu's just yet, they have to milk as much money possible first. I don't predict mainstream 4k adoption until the content is widely available from cable networks and such, and everything that give along with that. But even then, those companies will gladly ride out your dollar as well.
Another guy who gets it.

Remember, Mainstream means when an item is commonly purchased. There is no logical reason to upgrade right now.
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Forget 4k. The industry is gonna let it drop by the way side because 8k is right around the corner.

I'll be waiting instead of splurging money into something that'll be obsolete in less than a year.
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