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Hey all,

Contemplating switching CPUs. Now I know ARMA loves IPC and I used to own a 1045T that ran it very well (ARMA 2 however).

Could someone clear something up for me.

Can you use offset voltage with a fixed FSB (locked multi) as I used to have my 1045T @ 4.0Ghz. I had to use a fixed voltage to avoid crashing.

If you can I can get a 1035T for cheap.


Or FX-8320.
OR risk it and get a x4 960T hoping for unlock


Opinions? smile.gif I am sticking to AMD, budget. Looking for crossfire HD 7870s.


Thanks
Edited by mikeo01 - 3/27/14 at 3:58pm
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The fx 8320 is better than the phenom II x6 in arma III(because it seems to scale better with higher clocks)
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

Something else that you need to know?
Edited by PontiacGTX - 3/27/14 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

The fx 8320 is better than the phenom II x6 in arma III(because it seems to scale better with higher clocks)
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

Something else that you need to know?

Thanks smile.gif Yeah I have looked at that benchmark and I am not sure how true a picture it paints. I had ARMA 3 since Alpha and I know fast throughput is needed (I played it on my i7 3770).

If I can clock a Phenom to around 4 Ghz what would be it's IPC like compared to a Piledriver chip? I've got an Athlon 760K clocked to 4.6Ghz and my CPU utilisation is pretty much 100% when there's things going on.
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FX-8320 at 4.6 will beat a Thuban at 4Ghz any day of the week
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Go with the FX....the phenom is a non-factor at this point.
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Thanks smile.gif Yeah I have looked at that benchmark and I am not sure how true a picture it paints. I had ARMA 3 since Alpha and I know fast throughput is needed (I played it on my i7 3770).

If I can clock a Phenom to around 4 Ghz what would be it's IPC like compared to a Piledriver chip? I've got an Athlon 760K clocked to 4.6Ghz and my CPU utilisation is pretty much 100% when there's things going on.


If we check this

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/712/bench/CPU_02.png

The cpu fx 8350/20 scales. 4fps from 4ghz to 4.5ghz

And checking the same but from the multiplayer
http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-ARMA_III-test-a3_proz.jpg

There is a 3fps difference



Verifying these charts
http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-ARMA_III-test-a3_2560_amd.jpg
http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-ARMA_III-test-a3_2560_intel.jpg

We see that the core usage is optimal with 4,and fully with with 2 cores after 4 cores the load is shared between all

I woukd say that a phenom II x6 to catch a 3.8ghz 8cores would need 4/4.1ghz in arma III

As you can see here the difderence between a fx 8150/phenom II x6 to a fx 8350 is 3-5%
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/135388-amd-cpu-bonanza-trinity-desktop-prices-intels-counter-and-the-piledriver-fx-8350s-performance
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=203
Edited by PontiacGTX - 3/28/14 at 5:16am
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I could have sworn that thuban had better IPC then vishera
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the phenom is a non-factor at this point.

It's not the best CPU to use for heavy MP games, but its still quite a performer for the majority of titles out there. Overclocked, of course.
 
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I could have sworn that thuban had better IPC then vishera
It does, but only by a very small margin. Since you can clock a Vishera much higher than any Thuban, Vishera is going to win every time. The IPC difference is such that a Thuban at 3.9 might be equal to a Vishera at 4.0. Run a Vishera at 4.8, and game over. There's no practical way for a Thuban to keep up.

Thuban is still a very viable CPU. I ran an overclocked 1035T for a very long time and was happy with it. Only switched to the 8350 because I could, not because I needed to. But the 8350 is a lot faster than the 1035T was.
     
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