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Crucial M500 480GB vs SanDisk X210 512GB

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I'm trying to decide which of these SSDs I should get for my scenario. Here's the use case:

Hybrid RAID 10 array on an Adaptec 6805E controller. The Adaptec controllers support an hybrid array mode where you combine the same amount of SSDs for every HDD in the array. I will be building a four-disk array (two SSD and two HDD). For the HDDs I will be using 500GB WD RE disks. I've narrowed the SSD choice down to either the Crucial M500 480GB or the SanDisk X210 512GB.

With the M500's in the array I will have 960GB total space (2x480GB and 2x500GB, RAID 10 uses the smallest of the drives so its 480x2 = 960GB).
With the X210's in the array I will have 1TB total space (2x512GB and 2x500GB, this time the mechanical disks are the smallest so its 500x2 = 1000GB).

The M500's are cheaper than the X210's ($309 AUD vs $369 AUD).
The X210's have 5 years warranty, 2 million hours MTBF and higher on paper random 4K reads + writes vs the M500's
The X210's use 19nm MLC NAND vs 20nm MLC NAND on the M500's (big deal)

One thing that the X210 seems to do well is smoke the hell out of others when TRIM isn't used (in fact it did worse when TRIM was used - the M500 performed poorly):



The lack of TRIM is very important because it is not available in this configuration. It may be the sole reason I choose the SanDisk drives.

The SanDisk is nearly faster than the Samsung and Crucial put together! Both SSDs (SanDisk and Crucial) use the same Marvell controller. The X210 however has their nCache technology, its a tiered system consisting of DDR RAM, variable MLC cache that emulates SLC NAND and lastly the main toggle MLC NAND for the rest of the storage. I think this is where the SSD smokes the Crucial.

So what's your opinions guys?
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A 480GB M500 should perform about the same as an equivalent 240GB drive. Its NAND modules are twice the capacity of typical drives. Honestly, I'd take the M500 since you'd be saving $120. How much will the HDDs limit you? Are you striping the SSDs, and then mirroring them to striped HDDs when the resources free up? That seems like the most logical outcome. The X210 definitely has some neat features: RAM cache, pseudo-SLC cache, and then the main NAND. You might want to consider an 840 EVO since it should act similar.
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The Adaptec controller automatically manages the solid state drives when in hybrid RAID mode. All reads come from the SSD pair, while writes go to both SSD and HDD. The 840 Evo is more expensive than the SanDisk here.

Indeed the cost savings do have me leaning toward the M500 but the X210 performance under no TRIM could be a big factor, what are your thoughts on that?
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How heavy do you predict the writes will be? If they can fit in the 128MiB cache, why are you even asking? If they're within 512-1024MiB or so sustained, I doubt the SanDisk drives would offer much more real-world performance. Anything bigger and the M500s start to look a bit slow.

I'm a bit confused. Both the HDD and SSDs are striped, and are written to at the same time. Then, when you need to read them, only the SSDs are accessed. Is this correct? I don't think reads should suffer too much without TRIM, and the HDDs will be a write bottleneck (unless the controller works around them?)
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How heavy do you predict the writes will be? If they can fit in the 128MiB cache, why are you even asking? If they're within 512-1024MiB or so sustained, I doubt the SanDisk drives would offer much more real-world performance. Anything bigger and the M500s start to look a bit slow.

I'm a bit confused. Both the HDD and SSDs are striped, and are written to at the same time. Then, when you need to read them, only the SSDs are accessed. Is this correct? I don't think reads should suffer too much without TRIM, and the HDDs will be a write bottleneck (unless the controller works around them?)

Actually no writes won't be that heavy. Good point on the controller cache - this is why I ask because I forget about these things tongue.gif

Yeah that's right, I'm not sure of the implementation detail specifically but it is 100% SSD read. I didn't think of the HDD write bottleneck - seeing as its RAID 10, the writes aren't committed until the all physical devices participating in that piece of data have been written to so no there's no controller workaround.

Read is more important for me (which is why I'm doing this... derp). I costed out a pure SSD solution and decided it wasn't worth it at all.

M500's are looking good. My only other concern is warranty and wear which the SanDisk on paper have the edge. But I don't imagine that to really be too much of a problem...
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OK new plan. I'm actually going to grab 480GB M500s from Amazon. They are cheaper there even with shipping and USD -> AUD than the actual Australian retailer (what a joke). Pity I can't get X210's from Amazon.
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Intel Core i5-3437U HP EliteBook Folio 9470m  Intel HD Graphics 4000  16GB DDR3 SDRAM 
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256GB SSD Windows 10 Insider Preview 
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