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If AMD doesn't find a way to be effectively competitive again, we'll be more or less royally screwed.

AMD has specifically chosen not to compete with Intel in the market segment where intel has LGA2011. The corresponding AMD socket is LGA1944 (usually knows as G34) which has also quad channel memory and option to have more cores than "usual" desktop parts, however, AMD is keeping their equivalent socket strictly for servers. I would actually quite love to see some competition in this sgemnet but I guess AMD does not think it's large enough market for them to bother coming out with a consumer chip-set for that segment. Hell, even if they would not release "consumer" CPU's in that socket it would still remain interesting option if it could overclock. Even better would be dual or quad socket ofc and overclocking but that is not going to happen, last such one was SR-2 for Intel.
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No DDR4 on the mainstream parts this year. Only X99 Haswell -E.

When do you think DDR4 might come to the higher end consumer chips?
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x99 looks pretty much awful though. It took intel like one year and a half to bring haswell to HEDT.
According to the information there, it uses 4 ram channels but supports only one dimm per channel, thus totaling to only 4 dimms.
Then you have the extra sata 3 ports and usb 3.0 still being on DMI 2. DMI 2 only has a throughput of 2GB/s for all those integrated peripherals, using "just" 4 decent SSDs at the same time effectively reaches that limit and you can't get more speed from the connected peripherals.

All in all, it's a weak and underwhelming presentation.
If AMD doesn't find a way to be effectively competitive again, we'll be more or less royally screwed.

Hmmmm wondering if ASUS has designed the new Rampage V Extreme with 2 dimm slots on either side of the 2011-3 socket for improved tracer timings OR placed them all on the right hand side for improved convenience.

Hoping for 2 on each side, a more balanced appearance to the motherboard. And 4 less dimm slots means more room "on-board" for sexy heat pipes and even more sexy I/O cover slash heatsinks.

The RIVE BE with a vastly improved chipset. thumb.gif
    
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Putting the blame on AMD because of an Intel lackluster release?rolleyes.gif

You already know how to make Intel do what you want, and that is to not buy their products. You could of course counterpoint that AMD is not competitive, that is why Intel can do this. If that's the case then buy AMD products. At least you will contribute some portion to AMD's R&D budget.

YEAH.. Lets all pass on Intel for substandard amd parts so they listen lachen.gif
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YEAH.. Lets all pass on Intel for substandard amd parts so they listen lachen.gif

AMD parts? Oh no no no, that would reduce the quality of all our lives. tongue.gif


Oh, I'm gonna catch hell for that statement.


Peace and Love, wubsmiley.gif


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Are the other Intel platforms any better on secondary channels (like the DMI 2 mentioned above) or is Intel in general not impressing? Basically I have a Maximus VI Gene and I was wondering how it compared to the new chipsets on smaller details not normally covered in reviews.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 3/28/14 at 5:43am
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x99 looks pretty much awful though. It took intel like one year and a half to bring haswell to HEDT.
According to the information there, it uses 4 ram channels but supports only one dimm per channel, thus totaling to only 4 dimms.
Then you have the extra sata 3 ports and usb 3.0 still being on DMI 2. DMI 2 only has a throughput of 2GB/s for all those integrated peripherals, using "just" 4 decent SSDs at the same time effectively reaches that limit and you can't get more speed from the connected peripherals.

All in all, it's a weak and underwhelming presentation.
If AMD doesn't find a way to be effectively competitive again, we'll be more or less royally screwed.

One dim per channel, Quad channel.
Yeah X99 will only support 4 sticks of RAM? What?

At 8 GB a stick of DDR4 ram which probably will cost an arm and a leg, you'll only be able to max out at 32GB of ram. While it's more than the needs of most people, HEDT is not design for "most people" mad.gif

X79 on the other hand actually had 3 Dims per channel and quad channels. rolleyes.gif
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Yeah X99 will only support 4 sticks of RAM? What?

At 8 GB a stick of DDR4 ram which probably will cost an arm and a leg, you'll only be able to max out at 32GB of ram. While it's more than the needs of most people, HEDT is not design for "most people" mad.gif

It's a feature of DDR4. Adding more than one stick per channel is not supported "out of the box" - it is supposed to be possible but would need some kind of additional stuff to pull off and is probably more of a server class stuff. So if you would like to have more than 32 GB of RAM it would be a good idea to sit on the current stuff for a while longer. It's not like X99 has features that are knocking your socks off.
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YEAH.. Lets all pass on Intel for substandard amd parts so they listen lachen.gif

This is not funny. As soon as AMD fell behind, Intel started milking their advantage. They replaced the TIM with some crappy one on newer processors, kept the prices up even after reducing the die sizes and cutting corners and "conveniently" delayed releasing their next "tick" line of processors.

The HEDT delay is really pushing it though. x58 was out about a year before the mainstream equivalent but x99 is out a year after. This is a disaster. xD
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I want to overclock a pentium
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