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I've been pricing out laptops and I was thinking of getting either with the 128gb SSD and Core i5. I'll mainly be doing web surfing, reading documents, writing papers, music recording and some not very intensive games (TF2. CS:GO). The Macbook Pro would end up being $150 more and I just need to know if it is worth it for my needs. I do have a budget and both fall within my budget but saving $150 would be nice because i plan on getting an External hard drive with both so I could put the $150 towards that.
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I've been pricing out laptops and I was thinking of getting either with the 128gb SSD and Core i5. I'll mainly be doing web surfing, reading documents, writing papers, music recording and some not very intensive games (TF2. CS:GO). The Macbook Pro would end up being $150 more and I just need to know if it is worth it for my needs. I do have a budget and both fall within my budget but saving $150 would be nice because i plan on getting an External hard drive with both so I could put the $150 towards that.

Neither are worth a dime!

haha no j/k. For what you said you will be doing prob not but who knows. The retina pro has a VERY impressive screen for a laptop but is under powered at its base configuration. I like the macbook air's. In fact I have a 11'' macbook air CTO version that I use for work when I am out of the office. It's a little beast and I have no issues with the way the screen is. In fact when I get home I just connect it right to my 1440p monitor and it looks fantastic. For work only though. No gaming on it so I can't speak for that.

So for the money for the macbook pro you can get a faster macbook air with a standard screen and more performance. If you get the macbook pro you will have less performance but a better looking screen to look at. It's all what's important to you at the end of the day. Like in my case I needed something very fast but easy to carry with me no matter where I go. thumb.gif
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You get a lot more than a better display .... Here's a comparison chart of differences for the top end models. Your $150 extra for the MacBook Pro buys 35% faster CPU, double the RAM, and double the SSD (which can't easily be upgraded, it's proprietary size)

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/how-to-choose-13-inch-macbook-air-vs-13-inch-retina-macbook-pro/

No brainer, spend the extra $100-$150 and get the more capable machine.

Greg
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Neither are worth a dime!

haha no j/k. For what you said you will be doing prob not but who knows. The retina pro has a VERY impressive screen for a laptop but is under powered at its base configuration. I like the macbook air's. In fact I have a 11'' macbook air CTO version that I use for work when I am out of the office. It's a little beast and I have no issues with the way the screen is. In fact when I get home I just connext it right to my 1440p monitor and it looks fantastic. For work only though. No gaming on it so I can't speak for that.
Screen really isn't a priority for me but the Retina display does look gorgeous is that and and better graphics worth $150 in your opinion for a student?
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You get a lot more than a better display .... Here's a comparison chart of differences for the top end models. Your $150 extra for the MacBook Pro buys 35% faster CPU, double the RAM, and double the SSD (which can't easily be upgraded, it's proprietary size)

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/how-to-choose-13-inch-macbook-air-vs-13-inch-retina-macbook-pro/

No brainer, spend the extra $100-$150 and get the more capable machine.

Greg

haha the i7 version is CONSIDERABLY faster than the i5 that they put in the macbook pro retina. Not really a "no brainer". Especially when you are forking out $1200 bucks on a laptop. You really do have to use your brain.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2043546/lab-tested-cto-11-inch-macbook-air-an-impressive-performer.html

some nice comparison charts to BACK up my statements.
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Screen really isn't a priority for me but the Retina display does look gorgeous is that and and better graphics worth $150 in your opinion for a student?

Only if you are working with graphics applications at school then yes. If not no. Mac's are all pretty good with video editing and photo editing. The pro's are a bit stronger in that field than the air's but for what you will be doing the i5/i7 air would be plenty fast and cheaper even than the macbook pro.

Also if battery life is important to you. You'll love the MBA. Can get easy 10 hours out of my CTO 11'' macbook air. The pro's are rated at 10 I believe but will only run about 6-7 hours. Due to screen resolution and a slightly more power hungry processor.
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haha the i7 version is CONSIDERABLY faster than the i5 that they put in the macbook pro retina. Not really a "no brainer". Especially when you are forking out $1200 bucks on a laptop. You really do have to use your brain.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2043546/lab-tested-cto-11-inch-macbook-air-an-impressive-performer.html

some nice comparison charts to BACK up my statements.

"The CTO 11-inch MacBook Air was also 8 percent faster overall than the 2013 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro, again due to the MacBook Air’s faster graphics and flash storage. The Retina MacBook Pro was faster in a number of tests, including Handbrake, Cinebench CPU, iMovie import and iMovie export tests."

Wow. 8%. You call that "considerably faster"? I was looking at MBA from early 2013 vs. the newest release, so my 35% faster quote is wrong. My apologies, but I still don't think the NEWEST MBA spanks the newest MBP. Apples to Apple so to speak.

Greg
Edited by hammong - 3/28/14 at 8:41am
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"The CTO 11-inch MacBook Air was also 8 percent faster overall than the 2013 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro, again due to the MacBook Air’s faster graphics and flash storage. The Retina MacBook Pro was faster in a number of tests, including Handbrake, Cinebench CPU, iMovie import and iMovie export tests."

Wow. 8%. You call that "considerably faster"?

Greg

While being cheaper and easier to carry around yes. Not to mention the better battery life. There's lots of things to weigh out then just saying its a "no brainer" . It all depends on what you will be using it for and if the screen is important or not. 8% is STILL faster. Like I have said in prev comments the macbook pro is more geared towards someone in the professional field of video and photo editing. So it is a bit stronger than the air in those aspects. For what he said he will be using it for there's no reason to get the macbook pro retina. Save the money and get the same performance if the screen is not important to you,
I hate the way that mac's have those laptops locked up but it does help with the speed. You have to set the ram up FROM APPLE when you order it. The user cannot change the ram. So if you buy the 4gb version it will always be the 4gb version. Which is another reason to get the air over the macbook pro retina. You will want the 8gb of ram. The SSD can always be changed later. They're just very expensive right now. So if you're going to use a external this shouldn't be an issue.
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Only if you are working with graphics applications at school then yes. If not no. Mac's are all pretty good with video editing and photo editing. The pro's are a bit stronger in that field than the air's but for what you will be doing the i5/i7 air would be plenty fast and cheaper even than the macbook pro.

Also if battery life is important to you. You'll love the MBA. Can get easy 10 hours out of my CTO 11'' macbook air. The pro's are rated at 10 I believe but will only run about 6-7 hours. Due to screen resolution and a slightly more power hungry processor.
Which year is your air? My brother has the late 2013 one and claims he can get 12 hours from a full charge with looking at documents, web surfing, watching HD video, and looking at PDF's from normal screen brightness. If the MBP got 7+ out of normal use that would be serviceable
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I have the mid 2013 MBA 11" and it gets 8-10 hours of normal use for work. All I know is that it is off the charger for most of the time I use it. Which is great for me. Yeah I believe the pro will get 6-7 hours with the recent refresh that they did. Normal use outside of editing and stuff like that.

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