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PC gaming is going down the crapper. 700$ for a single GPU? I remember when I got the gtx 295 for 529$. Not to mention games are so poorly coded that you have to upgrade every 2 years just to be able to max everything out even though it looks marginally better than console versions. When does it end? When we are paying 1500$ for a top tier gaming card... I paid 400$ fro my GTX 780 and I still feel like it was too much. Gone are the days of the 200$ 4890 or the 300$ 5870
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PC gaming is going down the crapper. 700$ for a single GPU? I remember when I got the gtx 295 for 529$. Not to mention games are so poorly coded that you have to upgrade every 2 years just to be able to max everything out even though it looks marginally better than console versions. When does it end? When we are paying 1500$ for a top tier gaming card... I paid 400$ fro my GTX 780 and I still feel like it was too much. Gone are the days of the 200$ 4890 or the 300$ 5870

Pretty much this. I think i'll switch to my PS4 for the next couple of years until (hopefully) the market regains it's sanity.
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Pretty much this. I think i'll switch to my PS4 for the next couple of years until (hopefully) the market regains it's sanity.


You are complaining about market sanity when you dropped 1k on a Titan
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I think the biggest difference between now and then is the fact that the performance has skyrocketed.

The lower end hardly requires any more power than it used to, that is for general use... but the upper end has gone up in power exponentially.

Add to that the fact that the cards are much more complicated and over-engineered these days, you end up with stuff that costs a lot more to produce. Also, inflation has gone through the roof in the last few years...

Yes, Nvidia did have the prices of the 700 series way too high early, but as it stands right now there is nothing too ridiculous about the prices other than the bitcoin mining causing the AMD prices to skyrocket.
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You are complaining about market sanity when you dropped 1k on a Titan

I spent £750 on a Titan when the premise was it was a halo product. It was then superceeded by the 780Ti and Titan Black within 12 months, and I certainly don't endorse £3k dual GPU cards.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with my purchase and it performs great but I'll be damned if I'm going to spend that sort of money on a single GPU every 18-24 months just to play sloppy console ports that look marginally better than if I brought them on my PS4. I play most games pushed to the TV with a controller anyway so there's a point of diminishing returns with uber high end gear for me especially as these consoles are going to be around for the next 5+ years.
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I think a fair price for this card would be a $999 msrp.

If they can keep temps low and clocks high, it's going to be a beast.

A triple slot Tri-X cooler can't even keep a single 290x at high clocks cool without running 70%+ fan speed, so what makes you think AMD is going to magically be able to cool two of them on one PCB? This is going to run 95c at 60+db and be much weaker than 2 individual cards.
 
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A triple slot Tri-X cooler can't even keep a single 290x at high clocks cool without running 70%+ fan speed, so what makes you think AMD is going to magically be able to cool two of them on one PCB? This is going to run 95c at 60+db and be much weaker than 2 individual cards.

Hybrid cooler.

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Blower in the middle?
Well that should work if they make it as good a cooler of the Titan Z/GTX 690
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A triple slot Tri-X cooler can't even keep a single 290x at high clocks cool without running 70%+ fan speed, so what makes you think AMD is going to magically be able to cool two of them on one PCB? This is going to run 95c at 60+db and be much weaker than 2 individual cards.
My god give up the heat issue. Only the ignorant have it, most have no issues with heat. See below for why it is moot anyway.

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Hybrid cooler.

Water for GPUs and fan for Vrms. Should make for some consistent runs.
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PC gaming is going down the crapper. 700$ for a single GPU? I remember when I got the gtx 295 for 529$. Not to mention games are so poorly coded that you have to upgrade every 2 years just to be able to max everything out even though it looks marginally better than console versions. When does it end? When we are paying 1500$ for a top tier gaming card... I paid 400$ fro my GTX 780 and I still feel like it was too much. Gone are the days of the 200$ 4890 or the 300$ 5870
gpus were expensive for years before the 4870. you have that to thanks for the last few generations of low price gpus. also, being that I've been deep into this hobby since 2002 (was not so deep in before) let's at least get the past prices right. the 4890 was $250 (still great compared to $340-$370 for the gtx275, which made my choice at the time) and the 5870 was launched at $380, but quickly and permanently went up to $450-$480 range. before the 4870 pressured a massive price drop for nvidia's flagship and all following cards that generation, AMD and Nvidia were charging $500+ and $700+ for cards that were as little as 7% faster than one in the same series that was $200 cheaper. nobody complained because that was the way it was. basically, the 4870 ruined consumers' expectations so anything from Nvidia more than $500 and anything from AMD more than $380 will cause endless complaints.
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