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So I have my computer mostly together, still waiting on the video card, but everything else is up and running. I'm also slowly but surely putting together a water loop.

Water cooled components -

Asus Maximus VI Formula - Mosfet
Asus Poseidon GTX 780
i5 4670k

Water cooling parts -

Thermaltake 240mm radiator
Thermaltake CPU block
swiftech mcp655
swiftech mcres reservoir


I know thermaltake isn't the BEST out there, but I got the CPU block and radiator out of one of their BFG9000 monstrosities for free. It was running a 3960x at 4.8ghz pretty stable so I think they are semi decent. I have room to easily at a 120mm radiator, and if needed I can modify my case for 1 or 2 more 240s.

So on to my questions -

Will a mcp655 be able to go through a 240mm + 120mm radiator, CPU, GPU, MOBO with no issues? I'm pretty sure this is a yes.

Metal materials - reading the water cooling guide here about no aluminum mixed with other metals. Is there an easy way to tell what my parts are made out of? Does anybody know what the poseidon and maximus are made of?
post #2 of 11
Well, both the Poseidon's and maximuses waterchannel is made of anodized aluminum, so you will need some good corrosion inhibitor to say the least.
The best would be either buy new pure CU blocks, or make a pure aluminum loop. I know I would never trust a mixed loop even with the best corrosion inhibitors, but that's just me rolleyes.gif

The mcp655 will be more than powerful, so no problems there thumb.gif
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Interesting.. The thermaltake stuff came out of a level 10 GTS with bigwater 850..

Reading here - http://www.overclock.net/t/1146187/bigwater-850-gt I'm thinking both my CPU block and radiator are aluminum. And yes I realize that aluminum is bottom rung, but I'm 30 bucks in for the CPU block, radiator, pump, reservoir, and the mosfet and GPU are part of the parts I bought... so.. I may end up getting a 120mm aluminum radiator and run a full aluminum loop
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can you put up a picture or 2 of the parts you bought for $30 and of whatever else you have? it will probably help a lot.
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With aluminum in the loop, I would use anti-corrosion juice, and I'd double up on the mix just to be sure.

My very first loop was a Thermaltake external aluminum rad kit with a giant copper block that came with the kit.
I never had any issues with it, but it used a very thick viscous green coolant. Probably with anti-corrosion in it.
I think the kit was called Symphony. The 120x5 rad looked like a huge tower speaker.

And I don't think there is such a thing as aluminum water blocks. Even Thermaltake uses copper blocks.

Friends don't let friends buy Thermaltake WC parts.
Edited by PepeLapiu - 3/29/14 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by PepeLapiu View Post

With aluminum in the loop, I would use anti-corrosion juice, and I'd double up on the mix just to be sure.

My very first loop was a Thermaltake external aluminum rad kit with a giant copper block that came with the kit.
I never had any issues with it, but it used a very thick viscous green coolant. Probably with anti-corrosion in it.
I think the kit was called Symphony. The 120x5 rad looked like a huge tower speaker.

And I don't think there is such a thing as aluminum water blocks. Even Thermaltake uses copper blocks.

Friends don't let friends buy Thermaltake WC parts.

Agreed, that's why I got the thermaltake stuff for free.. ha. This kit came with the same thermaltake green juice. And yes, looking down my CPU block barb, its copper inside.

I've been doing some research on galvanic corrosion and it seems like a minor problem years down the road -

http://www.overclock.net/t/141512/mixing-aluminum-and-copper-in-a-waterloop
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?195880-Copper-and-Aluminum-Galvanic-Corrosion

So now I'm stuck with -

Copper CPU block(no choice)
Aluminum Mosfet block (not going to change it out, one of the main reasons I bought the maximus board)
Aluminum GPU block ( again, not going to change it out)
Aluminum radiator (I could change this out, but I really like free stuff)

So my two options I'm thinking of -

1)Slap it all together, get some good anti corrosive, hope for the best and if it corrodes, pull it apart and run it/sell it as an air cooled computer(which it won't be a slouch as).

2)Run a dual loop
-CPU on a separate pump, res, and copper rad
-GPU, MOBO, current pump and res, and the thermaltake radiator

Option 2 is adding at least 100-150 bucks to my water loop. Not to mention there isn't as much room in the bottom of the HAF XB EVO as I was hoping, and I might have to cut a side panel to fit the mcp655 already, and the only place I could fit another pump is on the other side and have to cut the other side panel.

Few questions -

A) Galvanic corrosion - does the aluminum only corrode the copper? Or does the copper corrode aluminum as well?
B) Would adding a silver strip to the reservoir exacerbate my problems in any way or is silver not an issue with corrosion?
C) If I were to keep one single loop, would I be better off getting aluminum or copper for the 2nd rad - obviously copper is better for heat, etc, but just from a corrosion standpoint, if I have 3 pieces of Al, one piece Cu, adding a 5th piece, which one will be the least detrimental to adding on to the corrosion

Pictures of WC stuff - http://imgur.com/a/yNbIh
sorry for the cell phone pics, I tried to get some shots of the inside of the rad/cpu block.. The copper inside the block still looks pretty shiny
post #7 of 11
dont add silver. its more corrosion
dont waste money on another rad. yes it would be wasting it as you will just cause it to corrode also.
the corrosion will start right away. the thermaltake goo only slows it down. no one can tell you how long it will take.

thats all i got
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post #8 of 11
Yeah, what PC-ill said.
Silver is a metal.
Why risk adding more metals when other biocides are available?

And if I remember correctly, the copper will corrode the aluminum.
But I could be wrong, it could be the other way around.
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For anti corrosive what do you guys think about this?

http://www.swiftech.com/hydrxcoolant.aspx
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For anti corrosive what do you guys think about this?

http://www.swiftech.com/hydrxcoolant.aspx

its cheaper than mayhem's x1. its older been sold longer than x1. it should work well.
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