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Okay based on what you listed, you are planning to do a RAID 1?. Which is great for redundancy but doubles the cost for the capacity. Like I suggested before, if you want something cost effective and still offers fault tolerance then you should do a RAID5, it'll reduce the number of drives required.

A few suggested changes to your list to give some more flexibility for later expansion and my reasoning on the change.

HDD: Western Digital Red 4TB or Seagate NAS 4TB (cost about $165 each but are designed for NAS systems, so will last longer then the Toshiba drive, can use fewer drives to get same capacity leaving space for additional drives later. Using RAID5, to get 12TB volume size you need 4x4TB drives costing $660 vs 8X3TB RAID1 costing $800)

CPU: AMD A4-6300 (extra $10 but about 60% performance boost over A4-4000)

MB: MSI A88XM-E35 (extra $25 and has 6 SATA port on board, so no additional RAID Card will be required using 4x4TB RAID5)

Memory: Go for a dual channel kit. It'll just help overall system performance. 8GB (2x4GB) kit for HyperX memory should only be about $65

Also I'd put in a dedicated OS Drive, for my media and FTP server I've just got a small 120GB SSD. A Samsung 840EVO 120GB should only be about $90.

I used a SSD just for the faster boot time and basic system performance and because I use Windows Server 2008 R2 which can't boot from a drive bigger then 2TB, and is a pain to set up to boot from a RAID volume in general.

With all these changes, the overall cost should be about the same as what you had previously picked out but leaves you more flexibility and should give you a bit better overall performance.
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Any linux distro will run mdadm software raid, which will allow you to increase/decrease raid size. Windows software raid will not. A good raid card will be a few hundred, so doing software raid will keep the costs down, just need HBAs. LIke previously stated, just install something easy like ubuntu and go from there. You said lan cards? Do you need more throughput than 1 G? And with a cheap switch you would have to run the service on multiple IPs because it won't be able to port group.

I found the above SAS card for pretty cheap. Was just going to run hardware RAID and Windows because its familiar. I, for the life of me, cannot get Windows to recognize a Linux share.

So thoughts on the parts listed in the OP? Should I go for a cheap H61 (or similar) board and an i3 instead?
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Okay based on what you listed, you are planning to do a RAID 1?. Which is great for redundancy but doubles the cost for the capacity. Like I suggested before, if you want something cost effective and still offers fault tolerance then you should do a RAID5, it'll reduce the number of drives required.

A few suggested changes to your list to give some more flexibility for later expansion and my reasoning on the change.

HDD: Western Digital Red 4TB or Seagate NAS 4TB (cost about $165 each but are designed for NAS systems, so will last longer then the Toshiba drive, can use fewer drives to get same capacity leaving space for additional drives later. Using RAID5, to get 12TB volume size you need 4x4TB drives costing $660 vs 8X3TB RAID1 costing $800)

CPU: AMD A4-6300 (extra $10 but about 60% performance boost over A4-4000)

MB: MSI A88XM-E35 (extra $25 and has 6 SATA port on board, so no additional RAID Card will be required using 4x4TB RAID5)

Memory: Go for a dual channel kit. It'll just help overall system performance. 8GB (2x4GB) kit for HyperX memory should only be about $65

Also I'd put in a dedicated OS Drive, for my media and FTP server I've just got a small 120GB SSD. A Samsung 840EVO 120GB should only be about $90.

I used a SSD just for the faster boot time and basic system performance and because I use Windows Server 2008 R2 which can't boot from a drive bigger then 2TB, and is a pain to set up to boot from a RAID volume in general.

With all these changes, the overall cost should be about the same as what you had previously picked out but leaves you more flexibility and should give you a bit better overall performance.

I was going to do a RAID6 with my mentioned parts. So 18TB total space usable. I wanted 12TB or more.

Memory I could do a 8GB kit. I just figured 4GB would be enough for now.

I do plan on reusing a pair of old 80GB HDD's in RAID1 for the OS.

CPU..... I could buy an i5 used for my main rig and repurpose my i3. I'd just need an H61 (or similar) board and the i5. Could be nice that way.
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You are trying it with samba correct? I think the i3 leaves you more head room and I think it uses less power but not sure without looking.
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post #15 of 43
If you are looking at an Ebay SAS Card, pass on it if the card is used or says it's open box. Ebay vendors are notorious for selling bad parts. For hardware RAID it's worth getting something with a warranty that you can return if it is DOA.
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If you are looking at an Ebay SAS Card, pass on it if the card is used or says it's open box. Ebay vendors are notorious for selling bad parts. For hardware RAID it's worth getting something with a warranty that you can return if it is DOA.

He claims its tested and working great. Good feedback on him. It's the only option I can come up with that's affordable. There's no way I could get software RAID to work in Linux, plus sharing.
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Not sure what your sharing issues are with linux. I have my win 8.1 desktop mounting samba shares every day. Was doing it for my wife as well until I got a windows server running as well and moved her stuff out there. Also software raid is fairly simple with the gui in ubuntu or other linux distros.
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Not sure what your sharing issues are with linux. I have my win 8.1 desktop mounting samba shares every day. Was doing it for my wife as well until I got a windows server running as well and moved her stuff out there. Also software raid is fairly simple with the gui in ubuntu or other linux distros.

I can't get Linux shares to work. Permission issues or something, I don't know. Don't want to fuss with it, I want it to just install and work. I know how to make Windows shares work, and I have a spare Windows 7 license I can use.

Hardware wise, look good? I'll update that....going with an i3 and a cheap 1155 board.
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I'd suggest the A4-5300 APU - onboard Radeon HD7480 which should work fine for a HTPC or NAS. $10 more than the A4-4000.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113283
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I'd suggest the A4-5300 APU - onboard Radeon HD7480 which should work fine for a HTPC or NAS. $10 more than the A4-4000.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113283

I just switched it over to an H61 board and my existing i3. I'll buy an unlocked i5 to replace my i3 in another rig. So yeah, i3 and H61 is what I have picked for this rig now. cheers.gif
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