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I must say well speaking from a benchers point of view, nVidia chipsets are terrible... TwoCables is right even for just normal overclocking a decent P45 board such as the EP45-UD3P is definitely a better board than a nVidia chipset board!

 

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No. The EP45-UD3P is significantly superior. I should know because I upgraded to the EP45-UD3P from the 122-CK-NF68 and I had a much easier time overclocking my E8400. It made the 122-CK-NF68 seem like a piece of crap. Have you ever tried the EP45-UD3P?

The EP45-UD3P was and still is one of the best clocking boards on socket 775. They're known to be amongst the best overclockers of them all, even the x48's I've read.
I had one myself, a 1.0. It'd run my E8500 @ 4.2GHz or so with some 800MHz RAM and a Q9400 at 3.4GHz or so with the same RAM.

Keep the 667, and see what it can do if you overclock. Keep the E8500 and clock it high and see how it runs the games you want. Look around for some cheap used RAM, I had a 4GB set of 800 XMS2, and I bought a 2GB kit to match off a mate at school for like $10.

You can use the mod chips too if you wish, but I'd honestly stick with the E8400 for now and see what you can clock. You can always grab a CPU later or cut your losses and sell it up (ebay works good for an E8xxx), they generally pull around $70-$80 each, the board will sell for like $120 or so and the RAM will sell for around $50-$60 for 4GB.

As for the orignal question; A 750ti would be decent, it'd be overkill a bit now but you could use it later down the road. Also going from a IDE to a SATA hard drive will benefit performance a LOT. In my opinion a 500GB/1TB is silly value when a 2TB isn't much more.

Oh and if you stick with the E8400 they're so easy to cool! Mine maxed at 42c with an overclock to 4.2GHz with 1.32v. (Don't ask me how I remember that)
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Did some research. I tip my hat to u twocables. and op he is right. Sorry op. After some reading I will be buying and testing the EP45-UD3P motherboard.
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No offense twocables buy your slightly off here.

Ok, well don't leave me hanging. I kept reading after this point in your post expecting an explanation of what you mean.

Yes, I might be making the EP45-UD3P out to be a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better board, but the truth is: it's just "better". I know that. However, it really bugs me when someone posts when they don't have enough knowledge to be posting. I mean, seriously: recommending the EVGA 680i SLI which is an inferior motherboard, and then to top it off you don't have any hands-on experience with the EP45-UD3P? If you had used both and found the EVGA 680i SLI to be superior, then that would be fine. See? Like I said, I tried both: the EP45-UD3P is the better motherboard for overclocking - as I explained. I'm not the only one who  feels that this is the best 775 motherboard for overclocking:

http://www.overclock.net/t/415077/gigabyte-ep45-ud3-series-owners-guide

I was more referring to everything in general. I agree with you on the motherboard. I have both myself and I lean towards the gigabyte p45 obviously. My 680i is sitting in the closet doing nothing right now. My 965p boards are better honestly.

Read my whole post to understand my point. His board is freaking awesome and imo he should get a cpu that'll use it. The e8400 isn't that choice today with 771 xeon being so cheap and easy to mod.
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The EP45-UD3P was and still is one of the best clocking boards on socket 775. They're known to be amongst the best overclockers of them all, even the x48's I've read.
I had one myself, a 1.0. It'd run my E8500 @ 4.2GHz or so with some 800MHz RAM and a Q9400 at 3.4GHz or so with the same RAM.

Keep the 667, and see what it can do if you overclock. Keep the E8500 and clock it high and see how it runs the games you want. Look around for some cheap used RAM, I had a 4GB set of 800 XMS2, and I bought a 2GB kit to match off a mate at school for like $10.

You can use the mod chips too if you wish, but I'd honestly stick with the E8400 for now and see what you can clock. You can always grab a CPU later or cut your losses and sell it up (ebay works good for an E8xxx), they generally pull around $70-$80 each, the board will sell for like $120 or so and the RAM will sell for around $50-$60 for 4GB.

As for the orignal question; A 750ti would be decent, it'd be overkill a bit now but you could use it later down the road. Also going from a IDE to a SATA hard drive will benefit performance a LOT. In my opinion a 500GB/1TB is silly value when a 2TB isn't much more.

Oh and if you stick with the E8400 they're so easy to cool! Mine maxed at 42c with an overclock to 4.2GHz with 1.32v. (Don't ask me how I remember that)

 

Wow, 42? What cooler were you using? That's extreeeemely low for 4.2 GHz with 1.320V. I had the Tuniq Tower 120 and I was getting about 65 in Prime95 at 4.05 GHz using about 1.312 to 1.328V.

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E8400s are easy to keep cool these days. My xeon loads at 41c with 1.42v. But I'm under water lol. Remember max "safe" volts for 45nm c2q is 1.36v.
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Did some research. I tip my hat to u twocables. and op he is right. Sorry op. After some reading I will be buying and testing the EP45-UD3P motherboard.

 

Oh man, you are going to have some fun dude. :)

 

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I was more referring to everything in general. I agree with you on the motherboard. I have both myself and I lean towards the gigabyte p45 obviously. My 680i is sitting in the closet doing nothing right now. My 965p boards are better honestly.

Read my whole post to understand my point. His board is freaking awesome and imo he should get a cpu that'll use it. The e8400 isn't that choice today with 771 xeon being so cheap and easy to mod.

 

I'm not comfortable asking him to buy a new CPU. He already has the E8400 in the EP45-UD3P. I'd feel stupid telling him to go and buy a new CPU when he is already looking to buy a new hard drive, a new CPU cooler and better memory. Why should I make him add a CPU on top of it? I don't care how cheap it is: that's extra money that he doesn't have to spend.

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Did some research. I tip my hat to u twocables. and op he is right. Sorry op. After some reading I will be buying and testing the EP45-UD3P motherboard.

Oh man, you are going to have some fun dude. smile.gif
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I was more referring to everything in general. I agree with you on the motherboard. I have both myself and I lean towards the gigabyte p45 obviously. My 680i is sitting in the closet doing nothing right now. My 965p boards are better honestly.


Read my whole post to understand my point. His board is freaking awesome and imo he should get a cpu that'll use it. The e8400 isn't that choice today with 771 xeon being so cheap and easy to mod.

I'm not comfortable asking him to buy a new CPU. He already has the E8400 in the EP45-UD3P. I'd feel stupid telling him to go and buy a new CPU when he is already looking to buy a new hard drive, a new CPU cooler and better memory. Why should I make him add a CPU on top of it? I don't care how cheap it is: that's extra money that he doesn't have to spend.

His memory is fine. A duallie isn't enough these days. The ram money would be much better spent on a quad. Those xeons are amazing value. His 667 memory I'll bet will do 800+ easy at 6-6-6-18. Good enough considering the age.
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His memory is fine. A duallie isn't enough these days. The ram money would be much better spent on a quad. Those xeons are amazing value. His 667 memory I'll bet will do 800+ easy at 6-6-6-18. Good enough considering the age.

 

No, look at the games he's playing:

 

"LoL, Diablo 3 RoS, Titanfall, CS:GO, UT3."

 

He is just fine with the E8400. Titanfall might be a LITTLE better if he had a good 45nm Core2 Quad, but meh.


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His memory is fine. A duallie isn't enough these days. The ram money would be much better spent on a quad. Those xeons are amazing value. His 667 memory I'll bet will do 800+ easy at 6-6-6-18. Good enough considering the age.

No, look at the games he's playing:

"LoL, Diablo 3 RoS, Titanfall, CS:GO, UT3."

He is just fine with the E8400.

He's also just fine with 4gb ram. Quad in my opinion would be a larger upgrade than better ram considering his ram will very likely do decent speeds anyway.

If he's going to get a cpu, why not one of the best his mobo will support? And it's only $45-70 usd (depending on which chip he grabs)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2320 @ 3.1GHz MSI B75MA-E33 HIS HD7970 3GB @ 1050 / 1700, 1.17v Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
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Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
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60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
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Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
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