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What were your Prime95 settings and your IBT settings?

I don't remember it was a long time ago. It would have just been the default standard IBT settings most likely however.

I must note that my E8500 was one with the bugged sensor, where it wouldn't go below 41c but it worked above that peaking to 42c at times.
 
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I don't remember it was a long time ago. It would have just been the default standard IBT settings most likely however.

I must note that my E8500 was one with the bugged sensor, where it wouldn't go below 41c but it worked above that peaking to 42c at times.

 

It worked above that, peaking to 42 at times? Then you weren't seeing your actual temps. At all. Your actual temps were probably in the mid to upper 60s. No E8500 on air at 4.2 GHz using 1.32V would get 42 in Prime95 or IBT unless you were pushing cold air through the heatsink. 42 is just about 10 degrees above the typical idle temp.

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It worked above that, peaking to 42 at times? Then you weren't seeing your actual temps. At all. Your actual temps were probably in the mid to upper 60s. No E8500 on air at 4.2 GHz using 1.32V would get 42 in Prime95 or IBT unless you were pushing cold air through the heatsink. 42 is just about 10 degrees above the typical idle temp.

It was pushing cold air through the heatsink, I couldn't feel any heat whatsoever? Legit the sensor would read 41c at idle as it was bugged (Common issue with that batch of E8500's) and then it'd load up to 42c. I could make it higher by applying more voltage but yeah. Maybe it was a bugged sensor, but either way E8xxx's are easy to cool.

It doesn't matter at all as it's long gone haha. tongue.gif
 
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It was pushing cold air through the heatsink, I couldn't feel any heat whatsoever? Legit the sensor would read 41c at idle as it was bugged (Common issue with that batch of E8500's) and then it'd load up to 42c. I could make it higher by applying more voltage but yeah. Maybe it was a bugged sensor, but either way E8xxx's are easy to cool.

It doesn't matter at all as it's long gone haha. tongue.gif

 

I'm talking about very cold air, not room temperature air. 42°C for the E8400/E8500/E8600 is not possible full-load temp in Prime95 or IBT at 4.2 GHz using 1.32V unless there's quite frigid air passing through the heatsink. Like, putting air conditioned air through a duct pointed straight at it.

 

Here's another clue that I just picked up on: you were getting 42°C in both Prime95 and IBT. Your temp in IBT should have been 10-15 degrees higher.

 

My E8400 at 4.0 GHz using about 1.32V with the Tuniq Tower 120 and the Tuniq TX-3 aftermarket thermal compound would reach about 60-65 in Prime95, and about 70-75 in IBT. I had the fan linked below at full blast during those tests:

 

http://www.svc.com/y720dcd-25t1-gp.html

 

So your sensors were all stuck at 42 and probably needed temps above like 70 or 75 or something to even begin registering a bit more accurately.


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TwoCables: My e8400 is E0 biggrin.gif

To everyone who keeps saying I should upgrade my motherboard and cpu, I'm not going to do that any time soon. I can't afford it. I really don't see a point in doing it; and after reading everything TwoCables said, I'm 100% not going to do it. My budget is around $400. So far I have everything picked out except for a cpu cooler, though. I definitely want everything I'm buying to be future proof for the next 2 years or so. Not sure if the 750 ti will be good for 2 years.

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236345

Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487028 ( what about 660 or 7850? :X )

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

CPU Cooler: ???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118097
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181058

C'mon guys, help me get into PC's again biggrin.gif
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Sigh.....

$50 hdd.
$30 cpu cooler
$50 cpu.
Leaves $270 for a gpu, which is around hd7950 territory
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Sigh.....

$50 hdd.
$30 cpu cooler
$50 cpu.
Leaves $270 for a gpu, which is around hd7950 territory

I really do need to upgrade my RAM. It's made by "Centon" and it's probably the worst DDR2 ram ever...plus getting a $270 gfx card doesn't make much sense since it would just be bottlenecked by my other parts. I want to keep my e8400, unless this xeon mod you guys are talking about it really worth it. I hate manual labor, though.

EDIT: the xeon x5460 looks insane for only $60...gotta look into this more. The more feedback the better! smile.gif

EDIT2: the mod looks quite simple and seems way better than my e8400 for a cheap price. If I got this, I'm assuming that I wouldn't need a high-end cooler for it like I would with my e8400, which would almost even out prices. hm...pioneerisloud or TwoCables, what cooler do you recommend I get to reach ~4.5GHz for a 7.09 in. wide case?

EDIT3: Why exactly do you think I should keep my RAM, again? It's just so bad...but I don't want to spend $80 on new RAM if I don't have to.
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I really do need to upgrade my RAM. It's made by "Centon" and it's probably the worst DDR2 ram ever...plus getting a $270 gfx card doesn't make much sense since it would just be bottlenecked by my other parts. I want to keep my e8400, unless this xeon mod you guys are talking about it really worth it. I hate manual labor, though.

EDIT: the xeon x5460 looks insane for only $60...gotta look into this more. The more feedback the better! smile.gif

EDIT2: the mod looks quite simple and seems way better than my e8400 for a cheap price. If I got this, I'm assuming that I wouldn't need a high-end cooler for it like I would with my e8400, which would almost even out prices. hm...pioneerisloud or TwoCables, what cooler do you recommend I get to reach ~4.5GHz for a 7.09 in. wide case?

EDIT3: Why exactly do you think I should keep my RAM, again? It's just so bad...but I don't want to spend $80 on new RAM if I don't have to.

 

I hate the physical labor of working on my computer too. So, I'm definitely with you there.

 

You're not going to reach 4.5 GHz with an E8400 unless you use high-end water cooling or better. That means, a separate radiator, tubing, reservoir, pump, good water blocks (they're just heatsinks for liquid cooling).

 

Getting better memory will help you with overclocking. However, if getting the Xeon means you don't have to overclock, then that changes everything.

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You're not going to reach 4.5 GHz with an E8400 unless you use high-end water cooling or better.
I was talking about the Xeon X5460 redface.gif I really don't know how to tell which cpu coolers will be compatible/fit on it, especially since the xeon is made for 771 and my mobo is 775... :S

EDIT: this should do, right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
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You're not going to reach 4.5 GHz with an E8400 unless you use high-end water cooling or better.
I was talking about the Xeon X5460 redface.gif I really don't know how to tell which cpu coolers will be compatible/fit on it, especially since the xeon is made for 771 and my mobo is 775... :S

EDIT: this should do, right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

That ac freezer should get the xeon to 4ghz. You can also look at the xeon e5450. 9x multiplier, but it's much lower power thus less heat.

I was saying to keep your ram for now and just see what it'll do. I have a TON of generic 533 and 667 sticks around here. Every one of them do 800 at 6-6-6-18. By all means faster ram is better. But that 80 bucks could go to the gpu instead.

The quad xeons I'm talking about, at 4ghz are roughly on par with a stock 2500k. Huge huge cpu upgrade for you, and it's cheap.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2320 @ 3.1GHz MSI B75MA-E33 HIS HD7970 3GB @ 1050 / 1700, 1.17v Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
MouseAudio
Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
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