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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Steam-for-Linux-Client-Update-Improves-Steamworks-P2P-Networking-356763.shtml

and i didn’t say you couldn’t sustain, its down to the ISP.. which is what i said a few times.


I'll just stop you right here, Steamworks P2p, Not actual steam content.
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If i had problem with bandwidth i would find a way to download the game somewhere lease and back it up in a USB HDD or just download it once and then back it up so you dont have to re-download it in the future. I am too lazy to do that now since i can download ~ 4MB/s
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If i had problem with bandwidth i would find a way to download the game somewhere lease and back it up in a USB HDD or just download it once and then back it up so you dont have to re-download it in the future. I am too lazy to do that now since i can download ~ 4MB/s

Yea, I have North of 100 Mb coming into my home, obviously this kind of connection isn't available everywhere, but going Digital isn't the end of the world. People with limited connectivity can still purchase a copy of the game at their local retailer or online and have it shipped.
    
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Yea, I have North of 100 Mb coming into my home, obviously this kind of connection isn't available everywhere, but going Digital isn't the end of the world. People with limited connectivity can still purchase a copy of the game at their local retailer or online and have it shipped.

I feel like people that complain about Internet speeds and bandwidth are not really living in an area where they are greatly available. Its kind of like saying i need a bus route to my house in the country because i cant bike and cant own a car. Also at this day and age you are connected to the Internet like humans in the past where depended on rivers and lakes. They moved to those placed. You also have to move for Internet too. If you think its not important to you then gaming probably not a major part of your life.
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And with this, (And the mentality that digital is better) dies any gamer who collects special editions or otherwise wants an actual physical product -- and thus, more -- for their money.

Sorry, but i prefer my physical copies, for a few reasons;

1. A physical copy keeps me in some relative control of my access to the game. Digital copies encourage devs and distributors to promote the "Always online" restrictions that they can suddenly do at the drop of a hat. No, thank you. I'd rather not give them ammunition. It's bad enough i have to trust Steam/Origin to not suddenly close my account because i sneezed the wrong way and voided some terms and conditions.

2. I get more for my money; a nifty book - probably colored too with shiny pictures, and the ability to shelve it at a later date and sell for a premium if, in the rare chance, the game becomes collectable. Assuming of course existing DRM like Origin and Steam don't suddenly disappear overnight along with your ability to simply play the game.

The effort they put into the presentation/packaging is charming to me, i love it and it's part of the experience.

3. Buying a game is an event if it's a anticipated release. I like going to the store to get a game, as i did growing up - it has nostalgia for me.

4. I don't fancy downloading 5-20GB of data for a single game, especially if it's one that requires reinstalls due to bugs, or if i have a PC issue.

These may seem minor, but in the future these little things will make a difference and I know, years from now, i'll be missing the time where, you know, i actually had a physical copy of something i paid good money for.

Why any consumer would want to surrender more liberties to big companies (Who in often cases, put profit margins long before customers) is staggering.
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Holy hell, If I ever had to manage my usage i'll be totally screwed

That's nothing, ever since I went to unlimited and managed to get Netflix down under I've been doing this on a monthly basis. Wouldn't be surprised if I hit 1TB by the end of the billing cycle, too.

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10 MB/s is 80 Mb/s. Hardly realistic. ;-)

Australia was (until recently) getting 100Mbit/s fibre to 91% of the population with 1Gbit/s speeds being available within a few years. It's entirely realistic from everything but a "companies don't want to spend the money on infrastructure/give consumers that speed and the government doesn't care" perspective. From money? Fibre isn't much more expensive than copper and in fact, often ends up cheaper when you take into account the maintenance costs of copper and the like. From reach? Well, copper reaches most areas even in America, etc now...You could easily replace that with fibre and use LTE for the rest of the population in rural areas that likely only get dial-up or satellite as of now.

Even now, 30% of us down under will at least have 100Mbit/s capable fibre soon and we're a pretty big nation, especially when you consider that they have to run at least one line across the entire country and through a desert to connect Perth and Darwin to the Eastern states.
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Pfft try beating 6 down 0.4 up. Rural Canada? Try rural MURICA

...too embarrassed to post a speedtest

Try rural Australia. You're generally stuck with LTE, Satellite or dialup everywhere. LTE is by far the best option but still pretty bad. (Girlfriends parents are on LTE, still without working VoIP or the ability to hold a stable connection for more than 3-4 seconds..When you download something via that connection you see it go to 600-700kB/s down to 2kB/s then back up to 600-700kB/s every few seconds)
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I feel like people that complain about Internet speeds and bandwidth are not really living in an area where they are greatly available. Its kind of like saying i need a bus route to my house in the country because i cant bike and cant own a car. Also at this day and age you are connected to the Internet like humans in the past where depended on rivers and lakes. They moved to those placed. You also have to move for Internet too. If you think its not important to you then gaming probably not a major part of your life.

You shouldn't have to move houses just for internet. You certainly don't for water, food, (generally) transport, etc in this day and age.
Take Ocean Grove in Australia for example, it's less than an hour from the second biggest city in Victoria (Which is one of the better off states in Australia) but still only has LTE available. In fact, one of our politicians recently was ripped a new one for saying much of the same thing you did...I'd go more in depth about that but it's political and we're not allowed to talk about that. There's people a 5 minute drive from where I live (ADSL2+, 1 minute walking to areas with Fibre) who only had dialup until last year and have Satellite as their best option now.
    
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That's nothing, ever since I went to unlimited and managed to get Netflix down under I've been doing this on a monthly basis. Wouldn't be surprised if I hit 1TB by the end of the billing cycle, too.

rWfDOPg.png
Australia was (until recently) getting 100Mbit/s fibre to 91% of the population with 1Gbit/s speeds being available within a few years. It's entirely realistic from everything but a "companies don't want to spend the money on infrastructure/give consumers that speed and the government doesn't care" perspective. From money? Fibre isn't much more expensive than copper and in fact, often ends up cheaper when you take into account the maintenance costs of copper and the like. From reach? Well, copper reaches most areas even in America, etc now...You could easily replace that with fibre and use LTE for the rest of the population in rural areas that likely only get dial-up or satellite as of now.

Even now, 30% of us down under will at least have 100Mbit/s capable fibre soon and we're a pretty big nation, especially when you consider that they have to run at least one line across the entire country and through a desert to connect Perth and Darwin to the Eastern states.
Try rural Australia. You're generally stuck with LTE, Satellite or dialup everywhere. LTE is by far the best option but still pretty bad. (Girlfriends parents are on LTE, still without working VoIP or the ability to hold a stable connection for more than 3-4 seconds..When you download something via that connection you see it go to 600-700kB/s down to 2kB/s then back up to 600-700kB/s every few seconds)
You shouldn't have to move houses just for internet. You certainly don't for water, food, (generally) transport, etc in this day and age.
Take Ocean Grove in Australia for example, it's less than an hour from the second biggest city in Victoria (Which is one of the better off states in Australia) but still only has LTE available. In fact, one of our politicians recently was ripped a new one for saying much of the same thing you did...I'd go more in depth about that but it's political and we're not allowed to talk about that. There's people a 5 minute drive from where I live (ADSL2+, 1 minute walking to areas with Fibre) who only had dialup until last year and have Satellite as their best option now.

You had to move for water though. Internet is still at the stage where you have to move.
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Look at all you people complaining about your internet. Last year I had epic internet, I have a screenshot of me downloading Android x86 at almost 10MB/s. Year later and my 100Mbit connection is, during the day, at best 50kbit. Too many people using a connection that for some reason got massively limited mad.gif
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You had to move for water though. Internet is still at the stage where you have to move.

It shouldn't be and it wasn't back in the days of dial-up here at least, now when the infrastructure is all private ADSL support is patchy and fibre is only being rolled out in very limited ways. Even ancient Rome had working piping systems, etc...We're in the 21st century, it's entirely possible and very beneficial to consumers, businesses, government, etc to have good fibre based internet in most 1st world countries, especially in America where your infrastructure is about as bad as it is here. (We have better layouts and the like, but the copper is in horrible condition.)
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Look at all you people complaining about your internet. Last year I had epic internet, I have a screenshot of me downloading Android x86 at almost 10MB/s. Year later and my 100Mbit connection is, during the day, at best 50kbit. Too many people using a connection that for some reason got massively limited mad.gif

I've been trying to convince my ISP that this isn't adequate for using the internet for the better part of a month or so. Best part? That was a low ping, they've finally resynced the port and sent a technician to the exchange which has appeared to fix it for now, although they've "fixed" it 3-4 times so far.
    
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Look at all you people complaining about your internet. Last year I had epic internet, I have a screenshot of me downloading Android x86 at almost 10MB/s. Year later and my 100Mbit connection is, during the day, at best 50kbit. Too many people using a connection that for some reason got massively limited mad.gif


I know the feeling i went from 100/40 to 2.2/.5 It feels like i am going backward, Even when my games aren't bandwidth limited they still feel spikey because fibre offered so much smoother of an experience with less variance.
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