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Umm....I would bet there is a hardware issue somewhere...

It isn't uncommon to see some degradation in speed over time, as user numbers expand, but your situation is a massive exception to the normal speed loss. A network that is capable of reliably delivering a 100Mb connection to a client is typically of a Fiber or Fiber-Hybrid composition. The kind of growth that would have to take place to drop speeds to that degree is pretty unheard of....

In fact, I can't think of a single situation where it has happen, not only in that short period of time, but that much loss of bandwidth.

I would be hounding the ISP to see what the hell is going on. I highly highly highly doubt they grew that fast in that area. They are either at the limit of their back-haul, which means they need to upgrade the back end, or there is something broken between them and you.

Rumour is that my institute decided they were spending too much money on internet and decided to reduce spending by making it unusable for the majority of the day. But the interesting thing is that as the net is slow people from the outside have a really hard time accessing our website, thus creating a problem, which can't be solved unless we go back to the old 100mbit connection, which I doubt we will because admin just care about saving money.

I'd rather have 4mbit, stable, than whatever it is I'm supposed to have now.
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Even though I rarely use discs myself, I don't think this move is a good idea, since not everybody has fast download speeds and massive bandwidth.
    
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Even though I rarely use discs myself, I don't think this move is a good idea, since not everybody has fast download speeds and massive bandwidth.

Well, good news for you, they're not doing away with physical media completely. They're only removing selling of physical media from the origin store, and leaving it up to their partners (gamestop, amazon, newegg, etc) to take care of physical media distribution for them. As far as I can tell from the Steam store, Valve does the exact same thing. You can't buy physical media from Steam, but you can definitely by physical copies of Valve games from stores.

People hating on EA for this move should look to Valve as the one who did it first.
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Even though I rarely use discs myself, I don't think this move is a good idea, since not everybody has fast download speeds and massive bandwidth.

People hating on EA for this move should look to Valve as the one who did it first.

 

Difference is that Valve often sells titles below 5€. That makes up for the difference of not owning the physical media. Origin is just as, if not more expensive than retail stores.

   
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Difference is that Valve often sells titles below 5€. That makes up for the difference of not owning the physical media. Origin is just as, if not more expensive than retail stores.

I don't get this mentality. What difference does it make whether a product is expensive or inexpensive, especially since we're not talking about the exact same product? I don't recall Origin having nearly as many indie games to put on sale. The closest indie games on Origin are the Popcap games.

Origin sells games at MSRP until EA decides to put a sale on them. Valve does the same thing. Valve has sales more often due to the much larger selection of games, especially older and indie games. If Origin was selling above MSRP, you might have a valid point, but it isn't above MSRP.

Also, think of it this way. If the retail stores are selling it cheaper, that means part of the profits goes to the retail store instead of all to EA. It's EA's loss if they don't want to be price-competitive with retail stores.
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Difference is that Valve often sells titles below 5€. That makes up for the difference of not owning the physical media. Origin is just as, if not more expensive than retail stores.

I don't get this mentality. What difference does it make whether a product is expensive or inexpensive, especially since we're not talking about the exact same product? I don't recall Origin having nearly as many indie games to put on sale. The closest indie games on Origin are the Popcap games.

Origin sells games at MSRP until EA decides to put a sale on them. Valve does the same thing. Valve has sales more often due to the much larger selection of games, especially older and indie games. If Origin was selling above MSRP, you might have a valid point, but it isn't above MSRP.

Also, think of it this way. If the retail stores are selling it cheaper, that means part of the profits goes to the retail store instead of all to EA. It's EA's loss if they don't want to be price-competitive with retail stores.

 

My point was that retail is often cheaper than Origin. Which makes absolutely zero sense, as not only you get a physical media device, but also they have to pay for rent, taxes, utilities, freights, and all that.

   
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My point was that retail is often cheaper than Origin. Which makes absolutely zero sense, as not only you get a physical media device, but also they have to pay for rent, taxes, utilities, freights, and all that.

Gotta hit those hella awesome Origin sales!... I just threw up a little in my mouth after realizing what I just said...
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I dislike super sales. I believe they are awful for the gaming industry. If I buy a non AAA game when it isn't on a super 75% sale people question my motivates for doing so. The reasoning is simple. If I like the game and I believe it is worth X amount then I will pay X amount assuming that I am able to pay X amount.

It seems like since the steam/amazon etc sales have started there is now a new logic. AAA games are must have, all else wait for the super sale to pick it up. If the end user doesn't think the game is worth it then, yes wait. I didn't think Gone Home was worth full price. I waited for to go on sale for that reason. When it did I picked it up. The game was awesome but even after playing through it I still disagree with the amount they are charging for it. Dont' Starve however was worth every penny paid for the amount of pure enjoyment I've managed to get playing through that game.

I have nothing against buying digital games. I buy plenty at full price or close to full price from the companies themselves. A lot of my games come with a steam key and a stand alone install file in the event that I don't want to use steam. I have strong support for these types of sales so that is where I put my money.
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[IMG ALT=""]I'm currently waiting on the Borderlands 2 GOTY at a decent price, I can't imagine the burn people would feel after dropping full price on the first release, then paying season pass and then either having to buy additional DLCs at a discount or not, or just buying the GOTY which apparently still received DLCs after that but dont quote me on it. It's nice to see developers supporting a game but an upgrade choice like Deus Ex Human Revolution's Director's Cut would of been nice, that allowed buyers of the initial game to upgrade their base game to the Director's Cut at a discount.

What if they don't feel duped? I don't know about the rest of you but I play games because I enjoy them. If I feel that I'm going to have the ball of my life with Borderlands 2 then I'm going to pick it up on day one. If I'm right, that's great. Sure, Topclicker might wait around and pick it up and all the dlc's up later for much cheaper price than what I paid. But while he is waiting for that price to go down I'm still enjoying my game. I did pick up Borderlands 2 and loved the experience. Like most games, I did start getting bored of it over time so I stopped playing. However, I think I may have picked up well over 100 hours of game time with at least 20 or 30 of the hours being moments that I really enjoyed. That is why I don't feel doped. Because I enjoyed the experience.

On the other than, inFamous second son. I'm fighting to get some enjoyment out of it. I did enjoy the others but not much. I didn't pay full price for inFamous, I actually picked up for 45. I find the gameplay lacking of any real depth. I'm not enjoying the story or the side missions. The bad guys, they are mostly the same and the same tactic works again and again. It is good that the same thing works since they didn't give me much options in terms of alternatives.
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