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Hi all. My GTX-570 is finally starting to choke up a bit on newer games. Metro Last light, and a few others just don't treat it so well. So I have a question. Should I wait on the GTX 970, or go ahead and get the GTX 770? It would appear that the GTX 870 is going to be a notebook processor. I guess. Looks like they might be going to skip a numeration just like they did with the would be "GTX 300" series. Assigning it to notebooks instead.

So what should I do? Here lately, it seems like they're all going to be at the same price point. To clarify, my GTX 570 cost me $350. Currently, a GTX 770 is $350. My guess is that the 970 will like be, $350. On CPU Boss, the 770 doesn't really look to justify the upgrade, when it comes to their scoring. They give the 770 an 8.3 and the 570 a 7.1. Not really a justifiable expense. But if you scroll down, it actually looks like literally double the card. All the actual benchmarking and framerates seem to double, when going to the 770. Thoughts? Opinions?


http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-770-vs-GeForce-GTX-570
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A GTX 770 is double the performance of a GTX 570.

You'll also be getting more vram with 2gb(if your 570 is not the 2.5gb version) and use less power than the GTX 570.

I'd go a head and get the 770 now and not wait, will be a while yet for the new series and you need a card now.
    
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Thanks for the recommendation. But the Vram issue is one that I'm also concerned about. With 4k monitors soon to be come the norm, 2Gb just doesn't really cut it anymore. Or does it? I'm thinking that 4K monitors are going to be needing about 4Gb of Vram in order to run games properly. This could be why the Playstation 4 has 5.3Gb of RAM. Cause when they build a console, they have to look to the future as best they can, and Sony would have known that for at least half its lifespan, the PS4 will likely be running on a 4K TV.
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post #4 of 11
At 4K you'll be choked by the raw performance potential of the 770, not VRAM.

Plus, if you're going to be dropping mad $$$$ on things like 4K screens, you should be able to get something like a 780 Ti / R9 290X or just wait for 880 later this year
post #5 of 11
Well for 4k you will pass 2gb in some cases more than 3gb(like titan fall)

What do you think about the r9 290? There is one from xfx at 440usd on newegg which comes with bf4 when you register The card on xfx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150697

And performs as a 780gtx with 1gb more vram and much more gpgpu performance


Here is the thermal performance of the double d. R9 290x(which uses a bit more energy than the r9 290)
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/33629-xfx-radeon-dd-r9-290x-1000m-reviewed/33629-xfx-radeon-dd-r9-290x-1000m-reviewed?start=6

Also this is the most silent model from all r9 290
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Thanks for the recommendation. But the Vram issue is one that I'm also concerned about. With 4k monitors soon to be come the norm, 2Gb just doesn't really cut it anymore. Or does it? I'm thinking that 4K monitors are going to be needing about 4Gb of Vram in order to run games properly. This could be why the Playstation 4 has 5.3Gb of RAM. Cause when they build a console, they have to look to the future as best they can, and Sony would have known that for at least half its lifespan, the PS4 will likely be running on a 4K TV.
4K monitors aren't anywhere close to being the norm. By the time they are, all of our current hardware will be irrelevant anyway. So I would plan around your current needs, unless you plan on holding the card for 5+ years.
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I usually run a card for about 3 years. I try to stretch them out. Sounds like even the best cards wouldn't be great at 4k. I'll just go with the 770. Thanks for the help everyone!

But when is the right time to buy a 770? Are graphics cards sort of like RAM, when there is a perfect time to buy them? Is there a time when the 770 will drop for a short period, to say $200 from $350? Are price drops something that really happen with graphics cards? Or do they simply try to sell them all out, then rush in the new versions?
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I usually run a card for about 3 years. I try to stretch them out. Sounds like even the best cards wouldn't be great at 4k. I'll just go with the 770. Thanks for the help everyone!

But when is the right time to buy a 770? Are graphics cards sort of like RAM, when there is a perfect time to buy them? Is there a time when the 770 will drop for a short period, to say $200 from $350? Are price drops something that really happen with graphics cards? Or do they simply try to sell them all out, then rush in the new versions?

This happens very rarely with video cards. If you want a video card, get it. If you're always waiting for a price drop, you will never get a new card.

The 770 is an excellent card.
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Well back in the day when I bought my 9800GTX+, I waited till the GTX 280 came out and the 9800 dropped from $300 to $200. This won't happen with the 770?

Also, should I keep the 570 just to run PhysX on? Would it be worthwhile enough, to actually help out the 770?
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Well back in the day when I bought my 9800GTX+, I waited till the GTX 280 came out and the 9800 dropped from $300 to $200. This won't happen with the 770?

Also, should I keep the 570 just to run PhysX on? Would it be worthwhile enough, to actually help out the 770?

They already dropped the price of the 770 (and other cards in the NVidia range) around the time AMD released their new cards, another major price drop is unlikely anytime soon.

As for the 570 for PhysX; Depends on how many games you play use PhysX, and if that feature really is that important. Not many would be my guess, I'd sell it and save some money if it were me.
    
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