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Well if every ordinary 8350 can make the 9590 speeds, then what would constitute a golden one?
It's not that freaking hard! Remember, the 9590 runs at 4.7 GHz base, not 5.0. It only turbos to 5.0. The 5.0 speed that AMD claims is marketing BS. Anyone knows what they're doing and doesn't have a total dog of an 8350 can make 4.7/5.0 turbo. If you had an 8350 that could make 5.0 base at say, 1,45v, and was totally stable, that might be construed as golden. But good luck finding one.

A 9590 is a hand-picked 8350 core with higher leakage, and I suspect that AMD also tweaks the microcode for added stability. If you want to run at 5.0 all of the time, the 9590 gives you better odds if you can keep it cool. But nearly any 8350, and a lot of 8320's, can make it to 4.7 with an occasional turbo to 5.0. I presume you realize that beyond 4.7 is where Vishera starts needing a lot of pushing to reach stable overclocks. There's a huge difference between running at the 9590 clocks and running at 5 GHz all of the time.
     
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There's just something about that dustless CPU manufacturing facility smell mixed with heroin that does it for me.
That AMD new box smell is a sweet, sweet smell. It has that, je ne sais pas quoi aroma of money left in the wallet. tongue.gif
    
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That AMD new box smell is a sweet, sweet smell. It has that, je ne sais pas quoi aroma of money left in the wallet. tongue.gif
Very true, but of course with all of the Intel fanboys on here, they'll tell you to buy an i3 instead, and nevermind when you inevitably run into something that would really like more than two cores to play with...
     
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Very true, but of course with all of the Intel fanboys on here, they'll tell you to buy an i3 instead, and nevermind when you inevitably run into something that would really like more than two cores to play with...
Ive smelled the aroma of an I3 box, it has the aroma of dual core dead cat, heh.


I have an old bad habit of keeping an eye on the performance tab of task manager. For Windows 8, 8.1, most of windows processes seem to use 4 cores mainly, 2 of my cores stay with minimum activity most of the time. Im excited when a see a program use all 6 cores. smile.gif
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It's not that freaking hard! Remember, the 9590 runs at 4.7 GHz base, not 5.0. It only turbos to 5.0. The 5.0 speed that AMD claims is marketing BS. Anyone knows what they're doing and doesn't have a total dog of an 8350 can make 4.7/5.0 turbo. If you had an 8350 that could make 5.0 base at say, 1,45v, and was totally stable, that might be construed as golden. But good luck finding one.

A 9590 is a hand-picked 8350 core with higher leakage, and I suspect that AMD also tweaks the microcode for added stability. If you want to run at 5.0 all of the time, the 9590 gives you better odds if you can keep it cool. But nearly any 8350, and a lot of 8320's, can make it to 4.7 with an occasional turbo to 5.0. I presume you realize that beyond 4.7 is where Vishera starts needing a lot of pushing to reach stable overclocks. There's a huge difference between running at the 9590 clocks and running at 5 GHz all of the time.

Ahh I see, so you are saying a regular core speed of 5.0, not turbo core speed of 5.0. Gotcha

I haven't ventured past 4.5 yet, as I like being able to run 4.4 at 1.3v with max temp of 48c. It started to require more volts than was worth the heat at 4.5.
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That AMD new box smell is a sweet, sweet smell. It has that, je ne sais pas quoi aroma of money left in the wallet. tongue.gif

Haha, had to google what that meant, but I totally agree. If money wasn't an issue, I would definitely be an intel fan, but unfortunately that's not the case rolleyes.gif
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Very true, but of course with all of the Intel fanboys on here, they'll tell you to buy an i3 instead, and nevermind when you inevitably run into something that would really like more than two cores to play with...

"Yeah but the per core performance of !!!!!...." that's how ever conversation goes. haha
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Ive smelled the aroma of an I3 box, it has the aroma of dual core dead cat, heh.


I have an old bad habit of keeping an eye on the performance tab of task manager. For Windows 8, 8.1, most of windows processes seem to use 4 cores mainly, 2 of my cores stay with minimum activity most of the time. Im excited when a see a program use all 6 cores. smile.gif

BF3 seems to utilize my cores, I see an average of ~55% usage on all cores after playing BF3 for an hour or so. Wasn't expecting that from an older game.
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Haha, had to google what that meant, but I totally agree.
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Im not French, but had 3 yrs of French in HS and 1 in college, and have pretty much totally have forgotten all of it The old saying goes, use it or lose it, heh.
But that was Pee Pee Le Pew speak for "I dont know quite what it is" or along those lines. It fits with the perfume ads, heh,

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Im not French, but had 3 yrs of French in HS and 1 in college, and have pretty much totally have forgotten all of it The old saying goes, use it or lose it, heh.
But that was Pee Pee Le Pew speak for "I dont know quite what it is" or along those lines. It fits with the perfume ads, heh,




Haha, stupid skunk that falls for cats rolleyes.gif

Yeah that's more or less what urban dictionary had to say on the matter. Thanks:thumb:
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