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Different LLC settings can cause different drive characteristics. The Extreme setting usually causes voltage to RISE under a load, which IMO is counterproductive as it will force you to use more voltage under the worst case scenarios than is really needed because instability will crop up under lighter loads due to lower voltage. It's always best to have a bit of droop as the load increases, as this will let you find the absolute limits of the overclock. Having a little MORE voltage while under lighter loads is inconsequential and will just ensure stability. Ideally speaking, you want your heaviest load to result in the lowest voltage IMO, adjust the voltage setting to overcome stability issues. Find the LLC setting that holds regulation tight but always erring on the side of drooping as load increases.
     
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Max LLC settings would push my vcore up a little when running prime95.
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Max LLC settings would push my vcore up a little when running prime95.
Max LLC on the mobo pushes it up by.1v. So if you had it at 1.43v in the bios during load it would be around the 1.52v region.
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Different LLC settings can cause different drive characteristics. The Extreme setting usually causes voltage to RISE under a load, which IMO is counterproductive as it will force you to use more voltage under the worst case scenarios than is really needed because instability will crop up under lighter loads due to lower voltage. It's always best to have a bit of droop as the load increases, as this will let you find the absolute limits of the overclock. Having a little MORE voltage while under lighter loads is inconsequential and will just ensure stability. Ideally speaking, you want your heaviest load to result in the lowest voltage IMO, adjust the voltage setting to overcome stability issues. Find the LLC setting that holds regulation tight but always erring on the side of drooping as load increases.
With regular LLC I need 1.368v during load to stabilize 4.4Ghz but when using LLC on Extreme I need 1.4v during load(p95) to keep it stable. Why is that?
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With regular LLC I need 1.368v during load to stabilize 4.4Ghz but when using LLC on Extreme I need 1.4v during load(p95) to keep it stable. Why is that?
you still have the board and I dont. unfortunately I did not take down any notes when I playing with the limits of it. I could not go above 4.6mhz on a chip that does 5ghz on a higher quality board. Maybe you can get a higher OC out of the board.

I dnt recall getting .1v gains from extreme LLC but like I said. I dnt have documentation of it or the board now. My asus mobo behaved very differently than you are describing but I spent much more time toying with that setup and remember a lot more about my settings there. LLC never required me to change my voltage to be stable. it actually allowed me to lower it in some profiles.
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you still have the board and I dont. unfortunately I did not take down any notes when I playing with the limits of it. I could not go above 4.6mhz. maybe you can. I definalty dnt recall getting .1v gains from extreme LLC but like I said. I dnt have documentation of it or the board now.
Sorry. Thanks for the help. tongue.gif
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Using LLC at Regular, I set the vcore to 1.51v in the bios and while idle in windows its at 1.488v. Under load it drops down to 1.44v.
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Sorry. Thanks for the help. tongue.gif

if your temps are good now with the new cooler , why not push it and see what you can get ? the board will just either throttle or power down before anything gets damaged. Noway to hurt that fx6300. Those are tough chips.

People are pairing that mobo with Fx8xx on these forums. I dnt suggest it but its tough enough to not melt or get damaged anyway.
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So far I'm at 4650mhz at 1.44v load and no throttling. Core temp is at 56c. Will high vcore at idle hurt my chip??? The max vcore in my bios is 1.53v and I'm already at 1.51v in the bios.
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So far I'm at 4650mhz at 1.44v load and no throttling. Core temp is at 56c. Will high vcore at idle hurt my chip???

after you get your overclock stable you can turn back on the power save features cool and quiet if you want it to throttle down. I ran mine at almost 1.5v for a few weeks with it on 24/7 and no power save settings so I dnt think it will hurt.

Do you turn your pc off when not in use ? If you shut it down after each use It doesnt matter if its maxed the whole time. if you leave it on and dont allow it to sleep the I would enable the power save features. But I still think it is not going to hurt it.

The FX chips do not have a record of degrading very much and these chips been out over 18 months now. even so its temperature + voltage that will hurt them. sitting idle with voltage isnt doing anything.
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