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# Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power - Page 4

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Originally Posted by bobsaget

I hope the TS140P wil be available in France at a reasonable price.. Finally getting a replacement for my HR02

I plan to use my current undervolted NF A15 on it though, i prefer it over the TYs.
We all have our preferences. Noctua makes very good fans.

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Originally Posted by deepor

I don't know what the physics say about what's better, 8 * 6mm pipes or 6 * 8mm pipes.

If you only look at the geometry, nearly every formula you use turns out equal. The width of the base plate will be the same because it's (8 * 6) mm for both. In an equation about the surface area of the pipes, both sides will be equal because circumference of a circle is just a factor multiplied onto the diameter which will cancel out on the two sides of your equation.

The only place where a difference will be is the inside of the heat-pipe. This is because the formula for area of a circle has diameter squared. The thicker 8mm pipes will use more material, see here:

Take the square of radius of pipes multiplied by number of pipes:

(8 / 2) * (8 / 2) * 6 > (6 / 2) * (6 / 2) * 8
=> 4 * 4 * 6 > 3 * 3 * 8
=> 96 > 72

I have noooooo idea what that means and what to guess about what's the stronger idea... 8 thinner pipes that are overall less material or 6 thicker pipes that are overall more material.
I think it's "six of one and half a dozen of the other." I mean 6 & 8.
In theory the added area inside of pipes should allow vapor to move easier / faster too. Most use 6mm, but when 8mm are used they seem to perform at least as well as 6mm of equal area.

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The only place where a difference will be is the inside of the heat-pipe. This is because the formula for area of a circle has diameter squared. The thicker 8mm pipes will use more material, see here:
And since those pipes are copper more heat is transferred quicker with 6 X 8mm than with 8 X 6mm. Which seems to more than offset the smaller aluminum radiator surfaces in this case.
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my next heatsink for sure. looks great, single tower and performs about the same if not better than the D14. sold.
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my next heatsink for sure.

Same here. Of course, Ill have to mod the window on my case out by another 12.5 mm if the specs are accurate.
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what is it?
I see SuperBiiz has TRUE Spirit 140 Power for \$42.99 + \$6.99 shipping
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-TS140P

They have TY-143 fans for \$15.99.
http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?s=ty-143

Really for most users a single TY-147 is fine... and if you want more cooling and can stand the added noise, the cost of a single TY-143 gives 11c better cooling. it's only 2.55c warmer than 2x TY-143 fans at 2500rpm and at 1200rpm only 1.65c warmer. Hardly worth the added expense. Keep in mind that's 1200rpm and TY-147 is rated 1300rpm so probalby a degree, maybe two better with the added 100rpm.
I strongly suggest ordering from amazon if you possibly could. From amazon it may be a tad more expensive but you get much better customer support and the shipping is fast too.
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Amazon is \$54.95 for TRUE Spirit 140 Power and \$17.99 for TY-143. Only \$6.00 different.
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Edited by doyll - 4/15/14 at 10:38am
I wonder how hard this beast would crush my Evo. Been looking for an upgrade and this is within my price range.
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