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Thinking of going with custom loop

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Well kind of a noon when it comes to the whole water thing. As of right now I have a antec 620 all in one unit. With that said I am thinking of going with a custom loop as I will be wanting to put my gpu on water. So custom loop it is. Any suggestions where to get started. I have looked at the xspc raystorm 240 kit. Is that a good starting point or should I buy everything separate.

Want to do this right the first time hence why I am asking on here.

Some specs of my system are.
Case- corsair 500r
Intel i5 2500k @4.5ghz
Corsair vengeance ram 1600mhz 8gb
psu Evga 750 watt gold series
240gb ssd Kingston
120 ssd crucial my boot drive
1tb wd black hard drive.
gpu gtx670 ftw 4 gb edition
post #2 of 16
I made the jump to custom and it was one of the greatest decisions I've made. I rank it up with with buying an SSD. Depending on where you live, there are plenty of places to go to. Dazmode.com and NCIX.ca (Canada), USA has a plethora of places to buy. UK as well. I'm a noob and I built my first loop about 2 weeks ago.

A lot of people will tell you to custom design your own loop, source your own parts. I disagree. Go the opposite and get a kit. It will have everything you need to start your loop and you can always add more to it. Also, make sure your case can hold your loop. I had a Corsair 200R and I could fit my EX 240 rad up top because of spacing. Had to wait a week for my Arc Midi R2 to come in. Log story shot, here is my advise to you:

Read up on ALL WATER COOLING MATERIAL
Read a second time
Plan your loop
Acquire parts for your loop (First timers should get a kit, not a popular choice by most, but it will make sure you have what you need to build a basic loop and you can add/remove/change later.
Allocate as much time needed to carefully construct and put together your loop.
Allocate even more to bleed and test your loop
Spend the rest of your PC hobby improving your loop lol.
post #3 of 16
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Issue I see with using a pre made loop is will it be enough for cpu and gpu cooling. Maybe will have to add a second pump to get it flowing better. But I guess I would have to see what temps are compared to what they are now. My all in one unit has treated me really good so far. Hope in custom loop will be even better with the higher overclock. Wanting to see 4.8 ghz stable at some point. Which I have done already but backed it down till I can do the custom loop.
post #4 of 16
It adds up fast but when you are done piecing it together, it becomes user serviceable.

If you upgrade sockets, you just get a mounting plate for your block ( or a new block if need be ) and voila.

Same-ish price for a good all in one or air cooler, but it will be far more effective than they are.
post #5 of 16
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I agree completely money really isn't an issue all that much. As I am going to be buying this over a couple weeks hopefully. Thinking about it now. I might do the xspc raystorm 240 kit with a extra 120 rad for rear of case and a extra pump. As from what I have read my 500r is snot able to set up a push pull up top. So thinking adding the extra 120 rad is the way to go. Not sure if I am going to need the extra pump but don't think it will hurt.

Thinking reservoir pump to cpu to rad 240 to pump to gpu to 120 back to reservoir thoughts on this.
post #6 of 16
XSPC kits are good.
You can, and should upgrade the pump to a D5 pump.
I like the Vario ones, if you don't intend to put your pump on a controller.
And I would also not bother with the tubing that comes with any kit.
Get the Primochil Advanced LRT tubing for peace of mind instead.

If you go th custom route:
- Alphacool rads. As thick as you can fit allowing for push/pull. Go down in sixe until you can fit push/pull.
- Fans: Gentle Typhoons for best performance. Cougars or Yate Loons on a budget. But Yates don't like to be mounted horizontally.
- Pump: D5. Preferably Vario, with tach wire.
- Blocks: EK or Heatkiller. Not familiar with HK, but I hear good things.
- Fittings: Mostly looks, but I prefer Moonsoon Free Center to save your fingers, and good price too.
- Res: all mostly about looks.
- Fan controller: Bar none, the CW611 is an amazing piece of hardware.
Coolant: distilled with X1 additive. Don't need anything else.
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post #7 of 16
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Thanks for the info and replies guys.
post #8 of 16
A simgle D5, or DDC pump is all you will ever need.
Some like to have two pumps for redundancy, but I personally think it's overkill.
A single pump.with an RPM signal commected to your CPU_fan header will spit out a fan read error and shut.down your rig, should the pump stop working.

And if one of my pumps stops working, I don't want the rig to keep humming along on the second pump. I want the rig to te me my pump is not working. So pump redundancy is really not needed at all.

Also, pumps do get hot. So the little gain in performance you get from the extra flow of two pumps will be ofset by the extra pump heat dump into your loop.

Also, about rads. You should have both rads pulling air in, or both pushing air out. Otherwise, one rad is feeding warm air into the other and loosing most of it's performance that way. If you can't have all rads pulling, or all rads pushing, don't even bother with the srcond rad.

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post #9 of 16
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240 rad would be set up as a Pull only. 120 rad would be a push pull as I have now with my all in one.
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240 rad would be set up as a Pull only. 120 rad would be a push pull as I have now with my all in one.

No, by pushing out and pulling in, I was referring to exhausting and intaking into the case. Not referring to the fan position on the rads.
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