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So Carmack isn't worried so that makes me feel better. thumb.gif

John has no reason to be worried, if/when Oculus fails the gamer, John can go anywhere he wants.

The dude is a walking endorsement, programmer, highly respected, game creator, has legions of fans following, employable human. In other words, he has a lot going for him, and wouldn't find trouble getting a job really anywhere in the industry.

So he doesn't even need to sweat the small stuff.

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A company executive who financially benefits defends the acquisition. What a surprise. rolleyes.gif While I respect John Carmack, he has been out of touch with the gaming community for some time. This does not give me the warm fuzzy feelings, and does not confirm a gaming headed direction for Occulus. The direction I see coming is full of advertisements and non-gaming related applications for VR. Which i'm truly not interested in.

Marketing spin is marketing spin. Carmack is financially benefiting from the facebook acquisition. So what's he supposed to say. That he hates the idea? Give me a break. Of course he's doing to defend it. That doesn't make it the right decision on their part; like it or not they sold out. Period. And the guys who did the Occulus Rift kickstarter way back when? Now those are the guys I feel bad for.

I also find it quite telling that he doesn't rule out the possibility of advertisements associated with the occulus rift. He says advertisements aren't a bad thing. That he likes product recommendations on amazon. Sorry, advertisements while in a VR situation aren't subtle like product suggestions on amazon. Instead of denying that it will happen, I think it's definitely going to happen. So let's just buy the occulus rift to be inundated with ads. Sounds like a great time.

Carmack didn't ever need to work again well before this acquisition. Carmack does stuff because it intrigues Carmack. He could have stopped working after Doom if he didn't care about moving tech forward. If Carmack is still behind VR at Oculus then I trust they are still moving in the right direction.
 
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John has no reason to be worried, if/when Oculus fails the gamer, John can go anywhere he wants.

The dude is a walking endorsement, programmer, highly respected, game creator, has legions of fans following, employable human. In other words, he has a lot going for him, and wouldn't find trouble getting a job really anywhere in the industry.

So he doesn't even need to sweat the small stuff.

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So why would he continue working at a dead end job? If he is still at Oculus then he must believe they are going in the right direction, since, as you say, he could work anywhere he wanted.
 
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post #14 of 57
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John has no reason to be worried, if/when Oculus fails the gamer, John can go anywhere he wants.

Why would Carmack be concerned about job security? With his reputation, value, and never ending game royalties, he never has to work another day in his life.

He doesn't need the job. Not in the least.
Edited by frickfrock999 - 3/30/14 at 9:59am
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Hey, good for Carmack. I'm happy for him. So he has money, I really don't care. The guy has an aerospace company on the side, obviously he's not into games as he once was. Just because he's an intelligent man, doesn't mean that he's focused or in touch with what the gaming community wants.

If you support Occulus' new direction, hey, have at it. If you want occulus for shopping, go for it. Occulus for a car showroom in VR format? If that's what you want, have fun. Carmack basically indirectly stated that they're okay with putting advertisements in the Occulus experience. And they're looking into other areas for VR. It's clear at this point if you were interested in the Occulus for gaming, well, good luck with that. Have fun with your purchase. I'll be looking at the Sony VR product, which is gaming focused and seems excellent. With Sony's VR headset, there's no need for Occulus and their advertisement oriented non gaming applications. That's not something i'm interested in if it happens. Which the way Carmack spoke, is going to happen. The guy is out of touch with gaming and has been for years, regardless of his financial status.

But i'm sure you'll get an amazon.com virtual showroom with the new Occulus direction. Have fun.
Edited by xoleras - 3/30/14 at 10:01am
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Hey, good for Carmack. I'm happy for him. So he has money, I really don't care. The guy has a rocket company on the side, obviously he's not into games as he once was.

If you support Occulus' new direction, hey, have at it. Carmack basically indirectly stated that they're okay with putting advertisements in the Occulus experience. And they're looking into other
areas for VR. It's clear at this point if you were interested in the Occulus for gaming, well, good luck with that. Have fun with your purchase. I'll be looking at the Sony VR product, which is gaming
focused and seems excellent. With Sony's VR headset, there's no need for Occulus and their advertisement oriented non gaming applications. That's not something i'm interested in if it happens.
Which the way Carmack spoke, is going to happen. The guy is out of touch with gaming and has been for years, regardless of his financial status.

Or why not wait for the consumer product and then make your decision based on facts? thumb.gif
 
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I just can't help this feeling that Oculus got boned with this acquisition. Yes, 2 billion dollars is a lot of money, but since Facebook just acquired a IM company for 20 billion, it just seems that someone really failed in negotiations. Maybe the Oculus team didn't have much faith in its own product?
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I just can't help this feeling that Oculus got boned with this acquisition. Yes, 2 billion dollars is a lot of money, but since Facebook just acquired a IM company for 20 billion, it just seems that someone really failed in negotiations. Maybe the Oculus team didn't have much faith in its own product?

No, they don't have a product. They have a dev kit. For a company that doesn't even have a consumer product, their valuation is sky high. They bought the IM company based on the user base.
 
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No, they don't have a product. They have a dev kit. For a company that doesn't even have a consumer product, their valuation is sky high. They bought the IM company based on the user base.

So with that said, maybe the Oculus team didn't have much faith in their potential product. It would have been a gamble on Oculus' part, but it could have been a gamble that would have netted them a lot more than 2 billion. Either way, we'll never know how that would have played out.
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So why would he continue working at a dead end job? If he is still at Oculus then he must believe they are going in the right direction, since, as you say, he could work anywhere he wanted.

Because he believes it isn't dead, obviously, which is a bit of a good thing for the rest of us. I think something of value will be had as long as he is still there, if you see John jump ship, then you worry.
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Why would Carmack be concerned about job security? With his reputation, value, and never ending game royalties, he never has to work another day in his life.

He doesn't need the job. Not in the least.

Pretty much the point I was getting at, the man is completely set. biggrin.gif
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