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Hey everyone!,

Just wanted to some input as its been a while since ive build a computer. Currently I have wolfdale e8400 Intel 8 gigs of ddr3 800, gtx 560ti, and the usual fixins. Things are starting to fail on my mobo, and file system due to age...and neglect on my part, so i want to start fresh, with a new mobo/cpu, and possibly another 560ti to run in sli.

What I'm looking to get:

256Gb SSD (to run windows 7 Pro, and a few of my most played games)
FX series 8 Core (looking for advice on what chip to go with)
Asus mobo (gaming addition, but not top notch) also would like blue tooth + AC wireless, if not on the mobo, Asus wireless kit
water cooling for the FX chip
upgrade my psu from a earthwatts 600 to a thermaltake 900w modular psu
8-12 gigs of DDR3 1800-2200, (kinda where i need some advice on what speed)

Anyone with practical expirence with a certain FX chipset esp on the cooling aspects of it please chime in!

something else to keep in mind, I run CAD software...Auto Cad, and Solidworks 2010 on here...my current setup runs it ok.

Thanks
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I recommend the cooler master glacer 240L liquid CPU cooler, as it can be upgraded in the future to include more rads, block, etc
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Great that looks like a nice cooler, Also as i browse around, I might want to replace my GTX 560ti with something newer, and then SLI it later when i want to spend more, or run into a game i need more GPU.
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8320 if your looking to save money. It is essentially same thing as 8350 only that YOU yourself have to overclock it to the 8350 (which inst hard mine is at 4.4 24/7 stable.)
8350 if you TRUELY need to try to hit 5.0 (8350 supposibly has higher bin quality) (which is questionable because 8320 overclockers hit almost the same as 8350 but perhaps with a little more voltage)
I personally recommend 8320, I have owned 8350 and found no significant benifit, as hitting 4.7+ is unreasonable to have 24/7 temperatures are significant unless you have custom watercooling.

So based on those outlooks on the 8 core pick what YOU need for yourself. Do not get the 81xx stick with 83xx as the 8100 are inefficient and not anywhere as good as 83xx.

Concerning your RAM, stick with the lowest latency & and or frequency save yourself the money as well.

Please look/Google the benchmarks for the RAM, you will notice NO benefit in getting faster RAM above 1800.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4

But in your case with CAD and such, perhaps higher frequency would help, HOWEVER, as always higher frequency trade off with lower timing.


Hope this helps!
Edited by istudy92 - 3/30/14 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by ~Wolfdale Elite~ View Post

Hey everyone!,

Just wanted to some input as its been a while since ive build a computer. Currently I have wolfdale e8400 Intel 8 gigs of ddr3 800, gtx 560ti, and the usual fixins. Things are starting to fail on my mobo, and file system due to age...and neglect on my part, so i want to start fresh, with a new mobo/cpu, and possibly another 560ti to run in sli.

What I'm looking to get:

256Gb SSD (to run windows 7 Pro, and a few of my most played games)
FX series 8 Core (looking for advice on what chip to go with)
Asus mobo (gaming addition, but not top notch) also would like blue tooth + AC wireless, if not on the mobo, Asus wireless kit
water cooling for the FX chip
upgrade my psu from a earthwatts 600 to a thermaltake 900w modular psu
8-12 gigs of DDR3 1800-2200, (kinda where i need some advice on what speed)

Anyone with practical expirence with a certain FX chipset esp on the cooling aspects of it please chime in!

something else to keep in mind, I run CAD software...Auto Cad, and Solidworks 2010 on here...my current setup runs it ok.

Thanks

Ok so I would go FX:8350. It can overclock a little better than 8320. But the gap has closed a lot since all the best chips now go to the FX-9XXX's
Mobo I would say : Budget: M5A99FX Pro R2.0. Mid: Asus 990FX Sabertooth R2.0. High: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z
RAM: G:Skill Ripjawz X 2133 CL10 16Gb kit (8Gb x 2) I would prefer 16GB to 8Gb. But you can get the same kit in 8GB (Some say you might not see advantage from fast RAM, However these G-Skills are great and cheaper than Corsair equivalents)
Cooling: Swiftec H220 and CM Glacier 240 are the same coolers. Swiftec lets CM sell them on licence due to Asetec blocking their import into US. If you can wait a little while the Swiftec H220X is coming out with a new pump based on the MCP35X and a new waterblock.
PSU: CoolerMaster V750S. or a Cooler Master V850.
SSD: I would say a Samsung 840 Evo
GPU: From the red side I would say an MSI 270X Gaming 2 or a 280X Gaming. From the green team. GTX 760 or 770.
Edited by Alastair - 3/30/14 at 11:38am
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OP, your Antec 600 Earth Watts is still more than capable to run your desired system. But if you must get a new PSU, choose one from this list that's on sale:
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies/0_20.

Don't go by just brand name & wattage/efficiency, also check out the OEM and professional reviews like this:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Review_Cat&recatnum=13
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Budget,resolution?uses?what parts do you need?
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You shouldn't need to buy a PSU.

The 8320 is usually the best for the price and a lot of them have similar potential to the 8350s.

RAM speed isn't a huge deal but you will get better performance in some areas with faster RAM. 2133 is about the threshold before they start getting really expensive for minimal gain.
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Something like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($135.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 PRO 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($99.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1060.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 14:57 EDT-0400)
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you just have to get lucky with the chip you get with how high the overclock with a low voltage. i would say go with the fx8320 and put the money towards a better cooler if you want to overclock over 4.5ghz. i have both my cpu and gpu overclocked and i dont use over 750w of power. so unless you are going with 2 or 3 way sli you wont need that much power. thumb.gif i got really lucky with my fx 8320 being able to get it up to 5.0 ghz, if i had better cooling i would be able to go further. you could use the h80i and keep your cpu nice and chilly at 4.5ghz the cooler stresses when pushed over 4.8 on my system. biggrin.gif
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