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The 4670K will pretty much always come ahead of the 8350. But if your friend does render videos or the likes fairly regularly, the 8350 may not be a bad bet since it does have 8 threads.
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The 4670K will pretty much always come ahead of the 8350. But if your friend does render videos or the likes fairly regularly, the 8350 may not be a bad bet since it does have 8 threads.

If I upgrade he is getting the 8350. If I dont he is probably getting a 3570
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I had a FX 8320 oc to 4.8 and an Asus Sabertooth mobo before I switched to Intel. I sold the combo got the Asus Maximus VI Hero and a i5 4570. It was like night and day honestly. The 4570 felt smoother in everyday use and also my fps was higher in pretty much every game. Now I'm rocking the 4770K because I got it for less than $300 and sold my 4570 and it's the best thing I've ever used by far since I also do quite a bit of video editing. Why not save a little cash by getting a cheaper mobo such as the Hero, MSI GD65, MSI MPower, Gigabyte G1 Sniper, or Asrock Fatality and get a 4770k? You're build doesn't seem to be locked into a color scheme yet so I would take a look at some of those other options. Even though I think the 4670k is an upgrade it's not the upgrade a 4770k would be and ht does make a big difference in certain things.
    
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For multi-threaded stuff / Encoding, 8350.
For overall performance / gaming, 4670K.
The 8350 is a great price/performance ratio, but does noticeably worse than the i5 in games where a fast CPU is needed.

It seems like lots of games are doing the opposite of what people hoped for a few years ago. People wanted games to use more of their CPU to increase their FPS, but some game devs seem to be adding extra crap that's CPU bound yet not making the core game logic/AI multi-threaded.

Any benchmark that shows a game at an average of 10-40 FPS is a bad thing to judge performance by.
There are a number of things that can cause an 8350 to bench higher than an i5 in some games, #1 being adding ridiculous loads onto the CPU. Don't trust any benchmarks that run a PhysX game with an AMD GPU, they're benching the game running PhysX off the CPU (Which is retarded, btw)

Depending on the games he wants to play, and how he intends to play them, the 8350 might be the better choice.
If he plays WoW, and likes to run multiple instances of WoW using more than one account for Multi-Boxing then the 8 cores of the 8350 could be a better option than the i5, but if he values the performance of the individual standalone game client I would recommend the i5.
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I had a FX 8320 oc to 4.8 and an Asus Sabertooth mobo before I switched to Intel. I sold the combo got the Asus Maximus VI Hero and a i5 4570. It was like night and day honestly. The 4570 felt smoother in everyday use and also my fps was higher in pretty much every game. Now I'm rocking the 4770K because I got it for less than $300 and sold my 4570 and it's the best thing I've ever used by far since I also do quite a bit of video editing. Why not save a little cash by getting a cheaper mobo such as the Hero, MSI GD65, MSI MPower, Gigabyte G1 Sniper, or Asrock Fatality and get a 4770k? You're build doesn't seem to be locked into a color scheme yet so I would take a look at some of those other options. Even though I think the 4670k is an upgrade it's not the upgrade a 4770k would be and ht does make a big difference in certain things.

I'm extremely locked into a color scheme.

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For multi-threaded stuff / Encoding, 8350.
For overall performance / gaming, 4670K.
The 8350 is a great price/performance ratio, but does noticeably worse than the i5 in games where a fast CPU is needed.

It seems like lots of games are doing the opposite of what people hoped for a few years ago. People wanted games to use more of their CPU to increase their FPS, but some game devs seem to be adding extra crap that's CPU bound yet not making the core game logic/AI multi-threaded.

Any benchmark that shows a game at an average of 10-40 FPS is a bad thing to judge performance by.
There are a number of things that can cause an 8350 to bench higher than an i5 in some games, #1 being adding ridiculous loads onto the CPU. Don't trust any benchmarks that run a PhysX game with an AMD GPU, they're benching the game running PhysX off the CPU (Which is retarded, btw)

Depending on the games he wants to play, and how he intends to play them, the 8350 might be the better choice.
If he plays WoW, and likes to run multiple instances of WoW using more than one account for Multi-Boxing then the 8 cores of the 8350 could be a better option than the i5, but if he values the performance of the individual standalone game client I would recommend the i5.

For me I play titanfall, bf4, grabbing ESO on friday. Usually when I play it is the only thing I do. My buddy I think just wants a computer to have a computer. But he really just downloads watches videos and plays games like company of heros
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Gap is going to close a lot thanks to Mantle. Also future software applications will start using more cores so it makes the AMD in that case a more attractive proposition. Its a difficult choice to be honest. But I do think that it is still leaning a bit in favor of the AMD. If it was FX vs 4770 then I would say 4770.
Games are still atrociously dependent on single thread performance; we're lucky if they support more than 2. We're just now seeing games start to fully utilize 4 threads, let alone 8, so with that logic we shouldn't waste our money on anything more than a 6300. Mantle will not be an AMD CPU savior; its just shifting the bottleneck back onto the GPU. When games really need that CPU power, Intel will still be clearly faster.

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On games with support with multi thread the fx 8320 beats the i5 4670k,in games with cpu demanding scenarios(wuthout multithread support) the fx 8320 is worse.in fps and 1080p the difference is few
what games are so meticulously threaded that the 8320 beats a 4670K? From what I've seen, it takes a 5GHz AMD chip to match or barely beat a stock 4670K. And that's ignoring all the games that aren't so wonderfully optimized (the vast majority of them)
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No point going from an 8350 to a 4670k!
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No point going from an 8350 to a 4670k!

Multiple people are saying that I will see a performance difference in game going from a 8350 to a 4670k
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I'm extremely locked into a color scheme.

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For me I play titanfall, bf4, grabbing ESO on friday. Usually when I play it is the only thing I do. My buddy I think just wants a computer to have a computer. But he really just downloads watches videos and plays games like company of heros

Didn't see all that in your sig! Well...with that being the case my vote goes for Hero or GD65 with a 4770k or the Formula and 4770k if budget permits and sell your buddy the FX! The 4670K is plenty for gaming though honestly. And the FX 8350 is a solid cpu so if your friend decides to do more with it or game heavier he can. Also nice build, sleeving and a custom loop are next on my list! And how do you like the 750D as far as cable management goes? I was looking at that due to the full window and clean lines. My HAF X is great but it looks like a transformer!
    
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I'm extremely locked into a color scheme.
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For me I play titanfall, bf4, grabbing ESO on friday. Usually when I play it is the only thing I do. My buddy I think just wants a computer to have a computer. But he really just downloads watches videos and plays games like company of heros

I've never played Company of Heroes, but if he really just wants a decent rig for media playback, browsing, and casual gaming then I think maybe a Haswell Celeron could be a great option for him.

Check out the benchmarks below, and pay attention to the following on each link.
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G1820 - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G1820+%40+2.70GHz&id=2129
FX 8350 - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780
i5-4670K - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4670K+%40+3.40GHz&id=1921



Unless your friend plans to actually use more than two cores, the G1820 could be awesome and save him some money or let him buy a better GPU/SSD/Something.
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