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Lol @ ppl asking for IPS -an LG patent - in a Samsung monitor...it is kinda asking for an AMG engine in a BMW M or vice versa.
Would be the same as asking for an Intel CPU in an Apple product a decade ago, but...not all companies are that consistent to their preaching.


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Lol @ ppl asking for IPS -an LG patent - in a Samsung monitor...it is kinda asking for an AMG engine in a BMW M or vice versa.
Would be the same as asking for an Intel CPU in an Apple product a decade ago, but...not all companies are that consistent to their preaching.


Ohh...my EVE days...have-to-stay-away! (haven't touched it for 2 years almost, woot woot, still top 500 in BC).

Maybe they're asking for PLS but don't want to make the somewhat arbitrary technological distinction between IPS and PLS. Or anyway...

Mostly I wonder why companies make monitors that cost $200+ (never mind $500+) that don't have VESA mounting holes, especially when they can't even do height adjustment. Really now.
Edited by mikeaj - 3/31/14 at 5:29pm
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It's not IPS? frown.gif
Where does it say TN?

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While IPS panels are much better than TN panels when it comes to color accuracy that still doesn't make TN panels bad. TN panels are much better than IPS panels for FPS games. TN panels are much faster at displaying frame rates than IPS panels so if you are into BF4/CSS/CS GO etc than TN panels will be better for you.
Even for gaming I personally would rather have an IPS monitor. When I bought my IPS screens, I set one up next to my TN screen and the difference was night and day. The IPS was like a soft, rich watercolor painting and the TN was like a harsh, ultra-vivid neon open sign.

I understand that some people want the best possible gaming experience but I'm waiting for an affordable IPS 4K monitor that does 60 Hz. Ideally 28" or 32". smile.gif
 
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I can find this monitor for sale in the US but not the UK? Are we going to get this here? redface.gif
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post #16 of 95
VA or IPS or no buy I mean nobody likes horrible blacks or washed out clolours.
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All 4k is 16:9
Actually 4K only means roughly 4000 pixels horizontal so there are indeed other ratios like 16:10 and various others for the professional market.
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I main EVE, it's all about the pretty colors when it comes to internet spaceships. But really I would use this for video editing so colors kinda matter.
I main EVE too... 9x 720p clients tongue.gif
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It's not IPS? frown.gif
Where does it say TN?

Nah, it's VA.

Just kidding. It's TN, without a doubt. Check the specs posted earlier. This post:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1478069/rt-samsung-launches-28-inch-4k-monitor-for-700#post_22037410

Even if it didn't say TN, 170/160 deg viewing angles and 1 ms response times quoted are codespeak for TN. Not to mention all the monitors in this first crop of sub-$1k 28" 4k monitors are TN. Many other 4k options are in the pipeline from other companies.

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Even for gaming I personally would rather have an IPS monitor. When I bought my IPS screens, I set one up next to my TN screen and the difference was night and day. The IPS was like a soft, rich watercolor painting and the TN was like a harsh, ultra-vivid neon open sign.

I understand that some people want the best possible gaming experience but I'm waiting for an affordable IPS 4K monitor that does 60 Hz. Ideally 28" or 32". smile.gif

I think often people overstate the difference in motion performance between a relatively fast IPS or IPS-like tech and TN. If you're stuck at 60 Hz with pixel persistence for the whole frame, you're going to get sometimes significant blurring even on some magical insta-change panel. (or well, some non-LCD tech)

That said, what you describe, unless the words aren't so accurate or I'm misunderstanding you, doesn't really sound like the difference between IPS and TN in general. A lot of differences people see are those between two specific monitors, one of which happens to be IPS and the other not, rather than those more general to the panel tech. More of a harsh "neon" look might just be a higher color temp, worse factory calibration, higher brightness, different level and type of antiglare or lack thereof, etc. These issues are not inherent to TN panels.

A good TN panel may not have very good color consistency with respect to viewing angle, but it need not have poor contrast, banding on gradients, inaccurate colors (in the portion you look straight on at), unsaturated colors, some kind of harsh glare, a nefarious tendency to steal your cookies in the middle of the night, and so on.

edit: wow, I totally broke the multi-quote... should be fixed now
Edited by mikeaj - 3/31/14 at 5:28pm
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VA or IPS or no buy I mean nobody likes horrible blacks or washed out clolours.
Actually 4K only means roughly 4000 pixels horizontal so there are indeed other ratios like 16:10 and various others for the professional market.

Oh I thought 4K meant 4 times the pixels of 1080p - I stand corrected!
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Mostly I wonder why companies make monitors that cost $200+ (never mind $500+) that don't have VESA mounting holes, especially when they can't even do height adjustment. Really now.

Valid point, but from the looks of it, doesn't look like a productivity oriented product.

And there have been lots of glorified by the crowds monitors that had neither, yet sold for far more than $200-500 just fine.

Unfortunately for the few that disagree, looks and branding > utility. And nice on- paper numbers can only mud the waters more.

Screen resolution is highly marketable, much like camera MP.
Qualitative performance and usability, is not.
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