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8.1 and Older mice 500-1000hz mouse fix?

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Hey so im quite confused about what the current status of 8.1 is. some one who has delt with it over history may help better than what I've read

in this order of dates ive read

windows 8.1 was limited to 200hz
windows 8.1 windows and older games where limited to 180hz or as low as 62hz for windows desktop display rendering
that windows released a 'fix' (presumably only for mice that actually support 500-1000hz? correct)
then after all of this I read Yes/No that 200hz limit was a error in the recording software compatibility?

ontop of this the normal method to OC my mouse doesn't seem to work as of 1/04/2014
I having a hard time figuring out what to do.

I have a WMO and I want to run it at 1000hz I do the fix like it did on windows 7 but when I reboot its fine then when I boot into windows it turns off and never turns back on unless I plug in another mouse and turn off the overclock and then change it to another port it doesn't seem to be killing ports but its doing some thing weird. in hidusb setup.exe it shows as normal but after reboot it shows as "not a mouse" also when I install the hidusb.sys I look where it installs and the install date seems to be wrong like a month off and a impossible date before when I formatted this drive. I tried 500hz as well

what should I do?

I want 8.1 for the performance increase in BF4

also if some one knows what % setting in battlefield is 1.0 that would be nice info too
Edited by he4th - 3/31/14 at 9:07pm
post #2 of 40
This guide helped me out

http://www.blurbusters.com/systemwide-fix-win81-mouse-fluidity/
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Overclocking the USB won't work since the method for win7 and prior involves changing certain windows hidusb files, as you know. Windows 8 has changed these files and the way they operate, so crackers would essentially have to rewrite a program specifically for win8 usb overclocking (I don't know why they haven't yet seeing as win8 has been released for a long time now - it may be more complex than before).

The fix that windows released pertaining to the 200hz polling rate issue was a symptom of their powersaving or some-other 'feature'. As a result, 200hz was capped on devices that called the module, and directinput or rinput was the only way around it (which was great for games which included these natively like CS, BF however for games like CoD, Deus Ex:HR, and others which called this function, were capped at 200hz and inherently suffered). The fix only lifts this cap on games, and as posted by Furority above, the fix was able to generalize to the entire system using a workaround. It will not let you overclock or force a device to run at 1000hz.

At the moment, the only way to overclock the polling rate for older mice is to use a fatal1ty motherboard which has a usb port which specifically overclocks the device for you.
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I have no issues at all with 8.1...but I don't OC my polling rates cause the mice I'm using don't mandate it.
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post #5 of 40
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thanks for the clarifications ... I guess i'm left hoping my 10$ razor abysses shows up in the mail its been 2 months :/
post #6 of 40
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

I have no issues at all with 8.1...but I don't OC my polling rates cause the mice I'm using don't mandate it.

Ofc not biggrin.gif
This thread is about overclocking older mice.

Which is not possible on windows 8.

So if you are using older mice like wmo and so on get away from windows 8 biggrin.gif
post #7 of 40
Is there really no other way? I guess the fatal1ty mobo usb port could come in handy. I think the msi gaming serious mobo has the overclockable port as well
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hmm is this only for windows 8.1? I only started hearing about this issue with 8.1 but I never tried to overclock my mouse on 8...?
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Originally Posted by he4th View Post

hmm is this only for windows 8.1? I only started hearing about this issue with 8.1 but I never tried to overclock my mouse on 8...?

It's for win8 in general. So both 8.0 and 8.1. Also, I don't think the performance increase in BF4 is enough to justify using win8. Haven't early patches addressed the win7 issues? (silly it even had those stuttering issues in the first place).
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its to do with how win8 handles direct x thou its a big boost in performance

its strange I only heard about the issues once 8.1 came out I was on win8 at the time and felt fine but was using another mouse I heared win8 had acceleration issues at launch but they fixed it.. this issue specific to polling rates you sure not 8.1 only?
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