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Is it just me or are these latest 2 dual gpu offerings from either camp simply not exciting? I don't know if it's because the novelty of a dual gpu card has worn off or if it's the sticker shock from the ever increasing disproportionate pricing but both cards just seem very meh to me.

Price plays a huge part to this. For example, If this card goes retail at the rumoured price (1499) I'd expect something better than this atrocious looking watercooler.
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The article says "AMD will not chase down the ludicrous 12 GB memory amount of GTX TITAN-Z despite its wider memory bus, and will instead equip it with 8 GB". Well duh, Hawaii can't have 6GB per core with a 512-bit bus. They can really only choose between 8GB and 16GB total, and 16GB would be the biggest waste of money.

Also, I still don't believe the card only having two 8-pin power connectors. With as much power as these things draw, I feel like it would have to use three, unless the clocks and voltages were significantly reduced. Even most of the non-reference 7990s used three 8-pin connectors.
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Realistically, it should be ~$1100-1200 USD considering the MSRP of the 290X ~$550 USD. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Asus Ares price and "exclusivity" may be the name of the game to capitalize on the mining craze.

No that's not realistic. Honestly we should expect anywhere between $1300-$1500 MSRP. $550 per GPU, $100 premium for fitting it all on one PCB, $200 for the cooler, and another $100 for the e-peen factor. Then vendors (or possibly AMD themselves) will throw on the crypto-mining premium.
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No that's not realistic. Honestly we should expect anywhere between $1300-$1500 MSRP. $550 per GPU, $100 premium for fitting it all on one PCB, $200 for the cooler, and another $100 for the e-peen factor. Then vendors (or possibly AMD themselves) will throw on the crypto-mining premium.

MSRP

GTX 690 $1000, GTX 680 $500

7970 $500 (adjusted after Kepler launch), 7990 $1000

How is $1100-1200 not realistic considering the MSRP is of a 290X is $550? You have one cooler to deal with. I threw in that extra $100 for the Hybrid cooling. Realistically, this should be the price. In actuality, that's up to Amd and the greedy retailers. My theory is based on the last two reference dual gpu cards from both sides. Can't go wrong following the same formula.
Edited by wermad - 4/1/14 at 1:32pm
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Price plays a huge part to this. For example, If this card goes retail at the rumoured price (1499) I'd expect something better than this atrocious looking watercooler.

I’m guessing it’s a bit of both. It’s been done before. It’s not even remotely cost competitive compared to the comparable sli/cf options; And as you mention it doesn’t look that good. All-in-all it doesn't even slightly impress or interest me.
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No that's not realistic. Honestly we should expect anywhere between $1300-$1500 MSRP. $550 per GPU, $100 premium for fitting it all on one PCB, $200 for the cooler, and another $100 for the e-peen factor. Then vendors (or possibly AMD themselves) will throw on the crypto-mining premium.

MSRP

GTX 690 $1000, GTX 680 $500

7970 $500 (adjusted after Kepler launch), 7990 $1000

How is $1100-1200 not realistic considering the MSRP is of a 290X is $550? You have one cooler to deal with. I threw in that extra $100 for the Hybrid cooling. Realistically, this should be the price. In actuality, that's up to Amd and the greedy retailers. My theory is based on the last two reference dual gpu cards from both sides. Can't go wrong following the same formula.

If we go back one more generation we had this:

GTX580 $500; GTX590 $700
HD6970 $400; HD6990 $700

There was an actually business case for buying a dual gpu card or sli/cf, other then e-peen / form factor needs.
Edited by serothis - 4/1/14 at 1:59pm
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GTX580 $500; GTX590 $700
HD6970 $400; HD6990 $700

There was an actually business case for buying a dual gpu card or sli/cf, other then e-peen / form factor needs.

The GTX 590 was not a true 580x2 and amd's price point forced Nvidia to go for this target.

From what I recall on the reviews, the MSRP of the 6970 was ~$359. So you can say the 6990 was the first true dual gpu card to match its two card equivalent in performance and the price was right on spot vs two discrete cards. 590s were basically crippled 580 cores that performed more on par with sli 570, which both had a tendency to go boom w/ voltage increase tongue.gif.

Though, the 590 was much more quiet then the siren 6990 tongue.gif
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Ok now someone to go dig up that story (was it from German Tom's?) about frying eggs on those video cards biggrin.gif
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Ok now someone to go dig up that story (was it from German Tom's?) about frying eggs on those video cards biggrin.gif

That was fermi lol.
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That was fermi lol.

I vaguely remember a 6990 somewherein the mix but I may be wrong.
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This will be a massive flop just like 7990.
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