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Here's my build that is on the way, meant to be a gaming/mining rig.

I tried not to spare any expense, so do the same with this. It will all be overclocked so now i need the pieces to keep it cool an make it look bad ass.

Dont worry about space, as its going in a custom desk once i convert it to water.

Thanks in advance.
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How much of your system do you plan on water cooling?

CPU
CPU + GPU
CPU + GPU + Chipsets

Is this the first time you've ever built a w/c loop?
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You should read the sticky at the top of this forum. That is your first step.
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I don't understand why people are still trying to mine. The $$$ investment + electricity bill will outweigh any $$$ made from mining. Especially with how unstable the market is for things like bit coin. It can be worth $1000/coin today and $500/coin tomorrow and $100/coin next week. That's a terrible market to try and be in. You will make more guaranteed $$$ investing extra cash into company stock like coke or mcdonalds which pay annual dividends.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wevsspot View Post

How much of your system do you plan on water cooling?

CPU
CPU + GPU
CPU + GPU + Chipsets

Is this the first time you've ever built a w/c loop?


All 3, possibly ram as well.

Yes this will be my first attempt, but im not looking for somebody to hold my hand on the construction side. Just looking for help with the best parts, mostly on the fittings/pump/reservoir/fan side of things as the blocks seem fairly self explanatory.
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You should read the sticky at the top of this forum. That is your first step.

Trust me i've read a significant amount, and most of the how to and help portions are dated back to 2010 or so...
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I don't understand why people are still trying to mine. The $$$ investment + electricity bill will outweigh any $$$ made from mining. Especially with how unstable the market is for things like bit coin. It can be worth $1000/coin today and $500/coin tomorrow and $100/coin next week. That's a terrible market to try and be in. You will make more guaranteed $$$ investing extra cash into company stock like coke or mcdonalds which pay annual dividends.

He could always switch to folding and help out a good cause. Plus I'm sure there is more to it than just mining.

Fittings: barbs or compression. In my opinion, if you want the job done right the first time go compression fittings. If you do, make sure your tubing matches with ID and OD

Tubing: Clear flexible Primochill ADVANCED LRT (nothing else), else it will leach plasticizer. Hard tubing, acrylic you can find it cheap on McMaster.

Pump: If you need a solid pump I would go D5. Any brand will do as they are all made by liang and just rebranded. You could go DDC but I personally think the D5 is the way to go.

Res: Tube/inline, or bay. Tube looks better IMO and fills your case nicely if you have extra room. Easier to fill and move around too. Bay is used if you are tight on space and have the room for it in your ODD bays (which you don't even have!). I would go pump separate from res, as it gives you more options.

Radiators: most brands are good. Alphacool has some QC issues but generally gets the job done. High end would be pretty much anything hardware labs. If you want performance and don't care about noise get radiators with a FPI(Fins per inch) of >20. Else <20 and get some quiet fans around 1000 rpm. If you get 30 FPI you pretty much need 2000 RPM fans unless they are in push pull. You need 120x1 area of radiator for each component +1 for OC +1 for Headroom. So budget accordingly to what you are doing. Mobo and ram don't need their own 120.

Fans: For radiators you want high static pressure fans. If you can find them generally for the best noise to fan speed ratio Gentle typhoons are the way to go. The favorite here is the AP-15s but they are extremely hard to find at the moment. I've also heard good things about bgears and ELoops and Cougars. Make sure if you are mounting them horizontally the bearings are designed for that. (IE Yate loons work great as cheap radiator fans but can only be mounted vertically).
post #7 of 34
I know he's not building this exclusively too mine. I'm just hoping I can spare him time, effort and money on a losing venture so he's not buying parts with that purpose in mind. Bit coins became irrelevant the second they started stripping away anonymity. That was its true value. Now it's just a media induced sideshow.

Build it for gaming, build it for a media center, build it for video editing but don't build it with mining in mind. You will only be disappointed.
Edited by d00bzilla - 4/1/14 at 10:03am
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post #8 of 34
Since neither money or space are going to be an object you might consider two loops. One for the CPU / chipset and the other for GPU(s)

I second the recommendation on the D5 or variant pump. There are other viable alternatives but the D5 has been my go to pump and I never hesitate to recommend it. At this point you'll really need to decide whether you want to go with a single loop and try and cram all the components into one loop, or go with two loops to distribute the cooling load. That choice will have a fairly major impact on what size and type radiator(s) you should be looking at and what fans would work well with that particular radiator or radiators.
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Originally Posted by wevsspot View Post

Since neither money or space are going to be an object you might consider two loops. One for the CPU / chipset and the other for GPU(s)

I second the recommendation on the D5 or variant pump. There are other viable alternatives but the D5 has been my go to pump and I never hesitate to recommend it. At this point you'll really need to decide whether you want to go with a single loop and try and cram all the components into one loop, or go with two loops to distribute the cooling load.

Keep in mind that will also double the maintenance by creating two loops to clean, fill, drain and bleed. Let's you do some cool color combinations if you use dyes though.
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post #10 of 34
I wouldn't personally do a dual loop build, but my stuff is always crammed inside a case (and the OP will be on a custom desk). And my most complicated loops have never been more than CPU and GPU.

Good points about maintenance though, somewhat alleviated by the fact that the OP has a flexible budget and plenty of room. In fact he may be one of the few users where a dual loop might actually make a lot of sense smile.gif
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